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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 04:31:08
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Plague Zombie Horde (from Imperial armour) & Psychic Shriek how it works? Zombie have "*" level of leadership. Does it means 0?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 04:32:44
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I am assuming that means that they have a special rule dictating how their leadership is counted as? I do not have the entry in front of me, and am not familiar with the unit. But there is likely a rule for the unit that says what to count their LD as
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 04:40:24
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Plague zombies don't have " * ", they have " - " which is treated as 0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 22:23:54
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Do they have Fearless? Because if not than that is a waste of a unit entry. No one would ever take them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 22:26:08
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They are fearless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 05:39:18
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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So how does "- treated as 0" interact with Psychic Shriek?
They just get hosed hard every time?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 07:30:58
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Laughingcarp wrote:So how does "- treated as 0" interact with Psychic Shriek?
They just get hosed hard every time?
Yes, until you put an IC in the unit to give them a Ld
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 08:19:48
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Zombies just don't know to cover their ears...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 11:59:15
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Laughingcarp wrote:So how does "- treated as 0" interact with Psychic Shriek?
They just get hosed hard every time?
What is 3D6-0?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 13:12:45
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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A lot of dead zombies!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 13:26:11
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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A maximum of 18, raw average of 10 or so.... I love psychic shriek, had my 8 man, VOTLW bezerkers fail a charge from 6" away onto a PCS with attached astropath. He got his first psychic power off that game, I didnt deny (hey, Ld10 so I should be fine  ) and he rolled 18  , and killed himself through Perils. Perfect
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/11/27 13:26:32
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 13:28:40
Subject: Re:Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Ah gutting!
Can't exactly resolve Psychic Shriek with a dead Psyker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 15:04:57
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Meh, it was the best result anyway, serves them right for missing the charge
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 15:24:45
Subject: Re:Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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So in this case do you still fully resolve the Psychic Shriek?
For me this is another poorly worded part of the Psychic Phase.
"Note that suffering Perils of the Warp does not necessarily mean that a psychic power fails to manifest."
This sentence introduces the possibility that power might actually fail due to Perils.
The very next sentence says you still manifest. But as Perils must be fully resolved before this happens it makes some powers impossible to resolve. Witchfires in particular.
You can't allocate as the model is no longer in LoS (he's dead!), I did consider Random Aalocation in this case, but the problem being you know full well where the Attack originated from (the smoking pile that used to be the Psyker).
It's one of those really poorly written parts of the rules, how do you deal with it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 17:07:01
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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CrownAxe wrote: Laughingcarp wrote:So how does "- treated as 0" interact with Psychic Shriek? They just get hosed hard every time?
Yes, until you put an IC in the unit to give them a Ld You only use the highest leadership value of a unit for leadership tests, which psychic shriek is not. There is no RAW method of resolving psychic shriek against a unit with mixed leadership. There are 2 ways I can think of to house rule it: 1) Use highest leadership like a leadership test. 2) Use majority leadership like rolling to wound. You'll have to agree on it with your opponent beforehand. Personally, I would use majority leadership, since fluff-wise I don't think encouragement from your leader would help you withstand "mind-shredding psychic energy". But that's just HIWPI.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 19:49:26
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Fixture of Dakka
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Grendel083,
It is a Rule in the Psyker Phase... I am not at all surprised it would also have problems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 20:25:01
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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JinxDragon wrote:Grendel083,
It is a Rule in the Psyker Phase... I am not at all surprised it would also have problems.
It's a mess of a phase, you'll get no argument from me on that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 22:18:58
Subject: Plague Zombie Horde & Psychic Shriek
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Average of 5 dead zombies (they have FnP 4+). Not too bad.
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