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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 10:25:14
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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i like mek themed ork armies with a few walkers mixed in there. on the occasion ive had a walker (deff dredd) in assault and a mek (not in assault) behind him makeing on the fly field repairs. some of my opponents have thought this a little cheese, but i see nowhere in the rules that prohibit this. the repairs are done in the shooting phase (like they are supposed to), and the mek (or bigmek) is not involved in the assault, thus freeing him to stick a wrench and a grot oiler right into that freshly ruptured carburetor.
even though its a little cheese, i think its a great piece of ork flavor for our armies, and shows the expertise and robust nature of ork mekaniks.
anyone have any thoughts please share?
if there is something about it in the rules please list the page or section.
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 14:26:05
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Screamin' Stormboy
Stuck in wit da boyz
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Sounds legit to me. I'll have to try that with my meks.
The simple way to counter it would be to change the mek.
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If brute force doesn't do it, you're not using enough. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/25 14:46:06
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Minneapolis, MN
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Yep, and you can do the same thing with Techmairines and Knights. It's more fluffy for orks, though (I can totally see a mek repairing things literally in the middle of a melee).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 06:54:28
Subject: Re:mek repairs during combat
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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thank you for your impute. just wanted a 3rd opinion.
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"dont put all yer boyz in one trukk" "umless its dredds, then take as much uf those as possible"
geargutz interpretation of the 'umies "eggs in one basket" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 11:34:50
Subject: Re:mek repairs during combat
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Wouldn't it be possible even if the (Big) Mek/other model like it were in combat?
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 12:45:41
Subject: Re:mek repairs during combat
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ond Angel wrote:Wouldn't it be possible even if the (Big) Mek/other model like it were in combat?
If it's anything like the AM Enginseer's "Blessing of the Omnissiah" (repairs vehicles) ability, absolutely not. You're repairing the vehicle instead of firing the enginseer's weapons. You can't shoot when you're in combat. Therefore, you don't have the option to replace your shooting with repairing (as you don't have any shooting to replace). P.S. I don't have the new Ork codex, so take my words with a pinch of salt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 12:56:29
Subject: Re:mek repairs during combat
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Mallich wrote:P.S. I don't have the new Ork codex, so take my words with a pinch of salt.
You're spot on.
"Instead of firing his own weapon"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 13:10:53
Subject: Re:mek repairs during combat
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Mallich wrote: Ond Angel wrote:Wouldn't it be possible even if the (Big) Mek/other model like it were in combat?
If it's anything like the AM Enginseer's "Blessing of the Omnissiah" (repairs vehicles) ability, absolutely not. You're repairing the vehicle instead of firing the enginseer's weapons. You can't shoot when you're in combat. Therefore, you don't have the option to replace your shooting with repairing (as you don't have any shooting to replace).
P.S. I don't have the new Ork codex, so take my words with a pinch of salt.
grendel083 wrote:Mallich wrote:P.S. I don't have the new Ork codex, so take my words with a pinch of salt.
You're spot on.
"Instead of firing his own weapon"
Whoops. I forgot about that part.
I even have the Ork & SM 'dex in front of me.
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 16:18:41
Subject: Re:mek repairs during combat
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Mallich wrote: Ond Angel wrote:Wouldn't it be possible even if the (Big) Mek/other model like it were in combat?
If it's anything like the AM Enginseer's "Blessing of the Omnissiah" (repairs vehicles) ability, absolutely not. You're repairing the vehicle instead of firing the enginseer's weapons. You can't shoot when you're in combat. Therefore, you don't have the option to replace your shooting with repairing (as you don't have any shooting to replace).
P.S. I don't have the new Ork codex, so take my words with a pinch of salt.
By that logic any model without a ranged weapon cannot Run, as they don't have shooting to replace.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 16:27:16
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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True, if taken literally.
Personally I go with "able to fire" rather than "has a weapon to fire".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 20:27:10
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Krazed Killa Kan
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I'd have to double check the codex, I always thought that you could repair if in combat.
As memory serves, mek's tools only say that in the shooting phase, you may attempt repairs instead of shooting. If he's in combat in his shooting phase, he may not be able to fire but he may still be able to repair.
I don't have the rulebook in front of me, so I'd have to double check.
But, logically, just because he's incapable of firing doesn't mean he cannot repair. For example, if he's in a morkanaut, he cannot fire a weapon, but he can still repair (I believe even if the walker is in combat).
Though......it honestly does seem a bit cheesy for a mek to say "Time Out!" in involved in a combat to go repair a deff dread.
I'd need to double-check the exact wording of the rule.
But for the OP, if the dread is in combat, and the mek isn't, you're 100% golden. No question in my mind that the not-in-combat mek could repair a vehicle that is.
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"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." Words to live by. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 20:33:09
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Logically? It's hard to unscrew a panel and replace a gear, when you're ducking a chainsword
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/26 20:45:05
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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grendel083 wrote:Logically? It's hard to unscrew a panel and replace a gear, when you're ducking a chainsword 
That's true, but now I'm imagining an Ork Big Mek ducking every time a Space Marine tries to chop his head off, while fixing a Stompa.
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/27 07:05:08
Subject: mek repairs during combat
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Short answer is that, "Yes", he can repair as long as the Mek isn't locked in combat.
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