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Hey guys, new to dakka here

Was just looking for some tips/hints on whether this is a good list. Doesn't have to be ultra competitive, but they're the only models I got (oh plus 2 dakkafexes for use at higher point levels), so are they kitted out correctly?
Also, any views on whether the list is considered as WAAC (hoping to use them in a casual setting) would be great

HQ
Flyrant w/ 2x TLD, ESG, Regen
Flyrant w/ 2x TLD

Elites
2 x Zoanthrope
1x Neurothrope

Troops
3x Rippers w/ DS
3x Rippers w/ DS

Heavy Support
1 x Trygon Prime

Total - 995pts

Rippers to contest/hold objectives and provide nuisance value, Prime to provide a relatively more durable CC option, the zoeys to come up through the subterranean tunnel if necessary, and the flyrants to provide all around firepower and durability. Does the general tactical plan make sense?

Thanks!

It's good in the sense that you can start the game with only your Tyrants on the table and deny a few turns of concentrated firepower against your army.

I would drop Regen and downgrade the Trygon Prime. You could pick up ESG for your other Hive Tyrant to have an increased chance of getting First Blood.

6x Ripper bases aren't going to be much of a nuisance if those are your only units that would attract non-AT weapons, but I would use them to tarpit units that are a threat to your other units.

willow wrote:
Hey guys, new to dakka here

Was just looking for some tips/hints on whether this is a good list. Doesn't have to be ultra competitive, but they're the only models I got (oh plus 2 dakkafexes for use at higher point levels), so are they kitted out correctly?
Also, any views on whether the list is considered as WAAC (hoping to use them in a casual setting) would be great

HQ
Flyrant w/ 2x TLD, ESG, Regen
Flyrant w/ 2x TLD

Elites
2 x Zoanthrope
1x Neurothrope

Troops
3x Rippers w/ DS
3x Rippers w/ DS

Heavy Support
1 x Trygon Prime

Total - 995pts

Rippers to contest/hold objectives and provide nuisance value, Prime to provide a relatively more durable CC option, the zoeys to come up through the subterranean tunnel if necessary, and the flyrants to provide all around firepower and durability. Does the general tactical plan make sense?

Thanks!

Not much to add...I would lose the Regen, and add ESG for the second Tyrant...if you drop the Regen, and the Trygon Prime, you can almost fit in the Twin Dakkafexen And that would be a much more "I Must win!!" list

Personally I'd add in a Brood or Two of Gaunts with left over points, they can always pop out of the Tunnel. If it is not Glued, you can look to magnetize the Wormy, and also give Mawloc a try. It is a "love it, or hate it" unit, but I've always had good luck with it.

Good luck! And welcome to the Hive Mind!

You probably know, but just as a reminder: the 2 zoa and 1 neuro is a single unit, that provides only 2 warp charge / deny dice.

Double flyrant is the minimum for nids nowadays, nevertheless, not a friendly list.

Because you have the zoans, and the DS rippers are just a point sink at this level, I would consider running 2x10 termagaunts with spinefists, and changing the neuro for a venomthrope.

My base build is usually:
2 flyrant, 2 dev, ESG, zoa-zoa-venom, 2x10 gaunts. That's 705 points,
For 1000 I would add a dakkafex (150) and a mawloc (140)


Or, keep your list, change the trygon for a dakkafex in a spore, that gives you a can-opener, and 15 more shots from the spore.
And you can buy the ESG for 2nd flyrant.

With the models you have, I would run this:

Hive Tyrant w/ Wings, 2x TL Devourers with Brainleech Worms = 230
Hive Tyrant w/ Wings, 2x TL Devourers with Brainleech Worms = 230
3x Rippers w/ Deep Strike = 45
3x Rippers w/ Deep Strike = 45
Zoanthrope = 50
Zoanthrope = 50
Zoanthrope = 50
Carnifex w/ TL Devourers with Brainleech Worms = 150
Carnifex w/ TL Devourers with Brainleech Worms = 150

Gives you 10 WC to dominate the Psychic phase and three chances for Zoanthropes to roll Onslaught for Carnifexes.

No EGrubs on the Flyrants since LR cost 1/4 of the points at this points level, so you can basically ignore them. You also have two Carnifex and three Zoanthropes to cause damage to it.

Get a Malanthrope/Venomthrope, Shrouded is too good for Tyranids.

Hey guys thanks so much for all the replies! i was trying to copy Iechine's list at a lower points level, with the trygon replacing his Mawloc.

I'll definitely try the non ESG build and throw in a mawloc and Dakkafexes.

A follow on question from the above, which kinda apply to both the Zoeys and the fexes, should I run them in separate broods to split fire, or is it better for survivability if I run them in one brood?

Also, are the neurothrope and trygon prime simply too expensive for this level?

Thanks once again!

I would definitly look at a Venomthrope or a Malanthrope(if FW is allowed). The Zoanthropes with Nero is I think too expencive in this point lvl and is really only effective if you have them in a Tyrannocyte so they can be dropped in.
Trygon/Prime is wile I ilke it not an optimal choice. Mawlok is nearly half the cost and just as if not more effective. I have 3 Trygons that I just use as Mawloks.

Edit: and definitly seperate the Carnis and Zoies for split fire and more warp charge.

willow wrote:
Hey guys thanks so much for all the replies! i was trying to copy Iechine's list at a lower points level, with the trygon replacing his Mawloc.

I'll definitely try the non ESG build and throw in a mawloc and Dakkafexes.

A follow on question from the above, which kinda apply to both the Zoeys and the fexes, should I run them in separate broods to split fire, or is it better for survivability if I run them in one brood?

Also, are the neurothrope and trygon prime simply too expensive for this level?

Thanks once again!

It really depends on your local "meta", I tend to run Zoeys in pairs, but that is because my local environment knows better than to let me spread them out. At low point levels Carnifexen can do just fine as singles, and singed out Zoeys grant 2WC per Brood, as well as rolls on the Hive Mind! chart, so it is a good idea to single them out when you can.

Personally the main argument against singling out Zoeys is that they take slots from Veno...so I normally run Zoey,x2, Zoey, solo, and a Veno, x2, or solo depending on points.

A lot of folks do this in reverse, using two slots for Veno, and one slot for Zoey. A solo Zoey is very good for back to midfield Synapse, doubled out it is durable enough to use agressivly.

I do think that both Neuro, and Prime are too expensive for the size you're at. But a Mawloc does good work for me at any points level. So you might try using your Prime as a "counts as" Mawloc, just to see how it works.

I don't think you'll Ever be disappointed by Carnifexen, but for low point games my favorite girl is Tyranofex, with a Thorax Hive I normally add Adrenal Gland for 200 she is dang near unkillable a low point levels, and wipes out Troops like nobody's business! She'll do best with support though, a Screen of Hormagaunts, and a Zoey Brood for Synapse makes for a terrifying team. Add a Veno, and it's a "Bugstar"