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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 03:17:48
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Water-Caste Negotiator
United States
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Link to The Report
A friend is trying out the new Tyranids so I accepted the challenge. Enjoy!
1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar
1850 (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 13:30:41
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Exciting and well-written report, thanks for sharing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 14:31:55
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Water-Caste Negotiator
United States
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Thanks! Glad you liked it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 16:52:34
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Great report, thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/03 23:54:07
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Water-Caste Negotiator
United States
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 00:32:16
Subject: Re:[Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Waaagh! Ork Warboss on Warbike
Waiting at the Dark Tower steps..
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Gotta say I love your reports It is like reading newspaper article of the game last night. And amazing win with the Eldar all down to the wire my kinda game. Gotta ask who the Warlord was for tyranids was kinda confused on that.
GG though well done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 00:50:39
Subject: Re:[Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Warwick Kinrade
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Great stuff, good to see the Nids pushing Eldar all the way. Thanks for writing up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 00:56:29
Subject: Re:[Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Water-Caste Negotiator
United States
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zombiekila707 wrote:Gotta say I love your reports It is like reading newspaper article of the game last night. And amazing win with the Eldar all down to the wire my kinda game. Gotta ask who the Warlord was for tyranids was kinda confused on that.
GG though well done!
I love the down to wire games as well. It is more exciting than just blowing your opponent away. The Warlord was the actual Flying Hive Tyrant model (that was painted in Orange). The Broadside and walking Swarmlord models were just the proxies. Thanks for reading! Automatically Appended Next Post: Iapedus wrote:Great stuff, good to see the Nids pushing Eldar all the way. Thanks for writing up
The new Tyranids are great! The pods bring a whole new dimension to their play (and significantly compliment the incoming FMCs and MCs) and the Mucolids are extremely good for their cost. You will start to see Tyranids making a push, I would think.
Thanks for reading!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 01:04:46
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Tunneling Trygon
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Yeah the mucolids are great. Not giving up kill points or victory points is great since they want to die anyway, and they are so cheap that anything that shoots at them is basically a waste of points. Plus, it actually will not die as easily as people think. How weird lol.
I think it will find its way into a lot of lists just because of how cheap it is, but not being objective secured is tough. Especially because it can't score at all.
Overall, great report.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 01:16:22
Subject: Re:[Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Hellacious Havoc
Oklahoma
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I'm the Tyranids player in this report. Glad everyone is enjoying it! It was a really fun and close match to play.
Also, I can't believe I forgot my Flyrants all had Electroshock Grubs. And you guys are spot on about Mucolids. I think I'm gonna use them for my required troops in like every game from now on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 01:38:25
Subject: Re:[Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Tunneling Trygon
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DO IT TO IT wrote:I'm the Tyranids player in this report. Glad everyone is enjoying it! It was a really fun and close match to play.
Also, I can't believe I forgot my Flyrants all had Electroshock Grubs. And you guys are spot on about Mucolids. I think I'm gonna use them for my required troops in like every game from now on.
Just food for thought - as you would be bringing an army with no objective: secured (unless you decide to include a Skyblight formation or just run codex Tyranids and have some other troops alongside your Mucolids) the game, when close, can become what you found in this report: if I table my opponent I win; otherwise I lose. While a fun way to play, it's not always the best because many armies will deny you the opportunity to table them (or make it extremely unlikely that you will), and as such have the ability to win on objectives. Wave serpents are a prime example of this. While your Flyrants can whittle away at them (EGrubs is awesome) they still have 3+ jink against your normal attacks and have more than enough mobility to move around the world's slowest moving mine. You can sometimes get their goat when they need to stay by an objective late game though.
I think Mucolids are best used taking up troop requirements in Leviathan, allowing you to do whatever you want with your normal Tyranid CAD. There they can be taken in great numbers, and most importantly in many different units. I need to model some up to try it out, or just find more top bits that aren't like $10 each
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 15:54:53
Subject: Re:[Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Hellacious Havoc
Oklahoma
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luke1705 wrote:DO IT TO IT wrote:I'm the Tyranids player in this report. Glad everyone is enjoying it! It was a really fun and close match to play.
Also, I can't believe I forgot my Flyrants all had Electroshock Grubs. And you guys are spot on about Mucolids. I think I'm gonna use them for my required troops in like every game from now on.
Just food for thought - as you would be bringing an army with no objective: secured (unless you decide to include a Skyblight formation or just run codex Tyranids and have some other troops alongside your Mucolids) the game, when close, can become what you found in this report: if I table my opponent I win; otherwise I lose. While a fun way to play, it's not always the best because many armies will deny you the opportunity to table them (or make it extremely unlikely that you will), and as such have the ability to win on objectives. Wave serpents are a prime example of this. While your Flyrants can whittle away at them (EGrubs is awesome) they still have 3+ jink against your normal attacks and have more than enough mobility to move around the world's slowest moving mine. You can sometimes get their goat when they need to stay by an objective late game though.
I think Mucolids are best used taking up troop requirements in Leviathan, allowing you to do whatever you want with your normal Tyranid CAD. There they can be taken in great numbers, and most importantly in many different units. I need to model some up to try it out, or just find more top bits that aren't like $10 each
You're absolutely right about that - it's a risky way to play as it can force you into that "all or nothing" style for sure. That style is definitely growing on me though, considering it produced a match as fun as this one!
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[4000 pts] Black Legion
[3300 pts] Thousand Sons
[2000 pts] World Eaters
[2000 pts] Dark Eldar
[2700 pts] Iron Hands
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/04 21:39:26
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Regular Dakkanaut
vancouver bc
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Great report, loved it! Had no idea who would pull through in the end, and even after it finished I felt like the game wasn't over somehow. Keep 'em coming!
That Nid list with the mucolids etc. is definitely a very interesting new element, those DS'ing exploding nasties are tough to deal with..
On the Eldar side, seems like a 2nd Wraithknight instead of the walkers would benefit the list, and I was hoping the Crimson hunter would prove its worth for once, but alas.
Loved the wraithblade deathstar, would like to see more reports on how it plays versus a wraithguard deathstar. 3 ICs and 10 WG is a huge stack of points for its limited speed, but it did bring a lot of pain to the nids.
Cheers,
Ibushi
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/05 01:58:08
Subject: [Musky Ink] 1850 Iyanden Supplement Eldar -vs- (NEW) Leviathan Detachment Tyranids
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Water-Caste Negotiator
United States
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ibushi wrote:Great report, loved it! Had no idea who would pull through in the end, and even after it finished I felt like the game wasn't over somehow. Keep 'em coming!
That Nid list with the mucolids etc. is definitely a very interesting new element, those DS'ing exploding nasties are tough to deal with..
On the Eldar side, seems like a 2nd Wraithknight instead of the walkers would benefit the list, and I was hoping the Crimson hunter would prove its worth for once, but alas.
Loved the wraithblade deathstar, would like to see more reports on how it plays versus a wraithguard deathstar. 3 ICs and 10 WG is a huge stack of points for its limited speed, but it did bring a lot of pain to the nids.
Cheers,
Ibushi
Thanks for reading! It was exciting - If you want to read more, there is a link in my signature to many other reports.
Agreed with the Mucolids - they will change how the Tyranids are played.
Regarding the War Walkers, I just like them too much. They are extremely dynamic with the shooting. I just misused them this game. This is a fun list anyways so why not play something I like! The Crimson Hunter, this was just not a good game for it. I have had many other games (found in my other reports) where it was a total beast. In this game, even though it lasted a turn, it effectively drew the attention away from everyone else for a turn I guess.
I have thought about using Wraithguard. Honestly it may even be more effective, especially when invisible. An effective 18" range with move and potentially Guide with a Spiritseer, it could be extremely lethal.
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