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In my reading of the quick start rules it is not exactly clear how you are able to know when you are able to dodge.
I get how you do it. Roll equal to or higher than the attacking roll.


My question is though:

Can you only dodge if you spent an ARO on it in your Active phase?

Move+Dodge

If you chose:
Move + Move
Move + BS
etc...
you can not dodge?

I just want to make sure.

thanks

First and this is important, you can not ARO in your Active phase only the Reative player gets AROs. Active Player only use Order.

Now to your question, yes you must use a Order to Move-Dodge in you Active phase. The reason that using a Order and not a ARO is important is becouse only with a ARO Dodge do you get the 2in movement.

OK, thank you.

I totally misspoke on calling it an ARO. (Thanks)

So this is my new question:

What is the difference between an Order Dodge and an ARO Dodge?

What is the benefit to declaring a Dodge Order? Versus just using the "Free" ARO one?

Dodging isn't free. It's always an action/skill taken during an order. Whether that's a Order from a Order Point, or a ARO.

There is no distinction between Dodging as part of an ARO, or normal active Order.

If you move+shoot, you don't get to roll to dodge as well.

Thus you cannot dodge if you shoot.

OK.

They way it was worded you got the option to Dodge, Shoot back or CC back as an ARO. Not that you had to spend an order in your active turn to benefit form the Dodge ARO.

I wanted to clear it up. If I'm going to play and help others learn I want to do it right.


From the Quick Star Rules in I:O

When the Active Player declares the first Skill of an Order, and before he can declare the second, both players react with an ARO (Automatic Reaction Order).

All of the Reactive Player's troopers that have Line of Fire to (That is they can 'see') the trooper that is using the Order, may declare one of these AROs:

- BS Attack
- Close Combat Attack
- Dodge

It wasn't exact thus my confusion.

Ugh, that doesn't bode well for the translation of N3.

Yeah, that writing is wrong. The Reactive Player gets an ARO with any model with a line of fire to the active model.

The Active Model just gets its second skill, not an ARO.

However, the full N3 book isn't out yet, and this may be a change in how they're writing Infinity in general, changing the second skill to the term ARO.

Just so you can see what I am looking at in the introductory rule book.



it wasn't clear on the dodge front.

What you wrote and what the book says don't match. Notice in the pic of the rules it says "both player check to see if any of the Reative players troopers can react with a ARO" not "both player react with an ARO" as you wrote.

Again ONLY the ACTIVE player can use ORDERs and ONLY the REACTIVE player can use AROs. Not trying to be rude it is just this concept is very important to the core Infinity mechanies.

No I get it.

And I totally botched that copy.

(It felt off that was why I took a picture)


And thanks for all the feedback everybody.