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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/07 23:35:47
Subject: [1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Hello all over a long time ago I started my quest to build a Khorne army 1500 points to be exact. Then school overwhelmed me, but now that I'm able to warhammer and get amazing grades at the same time its time to start the carnage again! This is my list I made a long time ago it is a melee Khorne army 1500 enjoy! and the number before each of their names in what detachment they are in and the next number is how many in each squad.
HQs:
2-Chaos Lord- Axe of Blinding Fury, Mark of Khorne 110 Points
1- Kharn 160 Points
Troops:
1-8 Man Zerker Squad- Power Fist, Melta Bombs 192 Points
1-8 Man Zerker Squad- Power Fist, Melta Bombs 192 Points
2- 10 Man Cultist Squad- 50 points
2- 10 Man Cultist Squad- 1 Flamer 55 points
Heavy Support:
2- Mauler fiend- 125 points
2- Mauler fiend- 125 points
1-Chaos Land Raider- Dirge Caster, Combi-Melta 245 points
1-Chaos Land Raider- Dirge Caster, Combi-Melta 245 points
PS: Are there any gaming circles or groups near Irvine that will accept new players I'm having a blast painting (even though my painting isnt that good  ) And reading tons of books, but playing is ya know... A wee bit important Thanks for all of the help!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/12/08 02:21:19
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 05:43:40
Subject: Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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Yeah, you've pretty much nailed it. Just think about grabbing a heldrake with a hades autocannon to take out enemy fliers.
Imagine a storm raven flying about with a TL MM and TL Lascannon, blowing up your land raiders and maulerfiends. Not a good time!
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"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 05:59:31
Subject: [1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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No, take the hellblade for anti air! You can almost take 2 hblades for cost of 1 drake.
Bale drake is better to bbq at 170 than dakka drake. Lone drake will not do much but kill average of 6 marines. Better take pair if you take drake.
But if you take pair, thats 340 pts. For just 5 more points, you can have 3 hellblades and rending ac. Thats 12 rending shots compared to 8 daemon forge shots. You can engage more targets. You can special move d6+2 inches b4 move phase. Also you can papercraft a hellblade easier.
If you had more points i would suggested juggerlord, aobf, 5 spawns as your death star.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 06:02:42
Subject: Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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changerofways wrote:Yeah, you've pretty much nailed it. Just think about grabbing a heldrake with a hades autocannon to take out enemy fliers.
Imagine a storm raven flying about with a TL MM and TL Lascannon, blowing up your land raiders and maulerfiends. Not a good time!
Seconded, and it fits your close combat idea as well, as vector strike is ripping apart things with claws Automatically Appended Next Post: Filch wrote:No, take the hellblade for anti air!
Bale drake is better to bbq at 170 than dakka drake.
If you had more points i would suggested juggerlord, aobf, 5 spawns as your death star.
A Hellblade is such an expensive model though! That is the only problem. Automatically Appended Next Post: Jugerlord + spawn for last 500 points for your 2000 list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 06:08:44
Subject: [1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Sorry i edit my post. You can papercraft hellblade easier n play non tourney or willing friends. Automatically Appended Next Post: How much does a hell blade cost in $?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 06:11:41
Subject: Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Thank you all! Any more post are welcome, but I have some confusion because after I checked my codex I asked myself this question, "What in the wild wacky chaotic world is a hellblade heldrake?" I checked and I only saw dakka drake and bale drake is there something I'm missing. Also, the reason I didn't take a heldrake is because of the lack of a melee option and if there is one count me in! But... What should I take out my wallets a generous person, but Christmas can only be so expensive. Edit: Srry can't paper craft. One I really like having an official army and two because I have absolutely no friends who play 40k (Their loss  ) I will play at a games workshop with some of the employes who even though I'm a bit younger than them are willing to invite me to 40k and bringing papercraft models will make them revoke their statement Automatically Appended Next Post: Changer! you were the guy who originally helped me build this list never thought I would ever talk to you again thanks man for all of your help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 20:23:21
Subject: Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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dragoonmaster101 wrote:Thank you all! Any more post are welcome, but I have some confusion because after I checked my codex I asked myself this question, "What in the wild wacky chaotic world is a hellblade heldrake?" I checked and I only saw dakka drake and bale drake is there something I'm missing. Also, the reason I didn't take a heldrake is because of the lack of a melee option and if there is one count me in! But... What should I take out my wallets a generous person, but Christmas can only be so expensive. Edit: Srry can't paper craft. One I really like having an official army and two because I have absolutely no friends who play 40k (Their loss  ) I will play at a games workshop with some of the employes who even though I'm a bit younger than them are willing to invite me to 40k and bringing papercraft models will make them revoke their statement
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Changer! you were the guy who originally helped me build this list never thought I would ever talk to you again thanks man for all of your help.
Am I? Haha cool. Yeah I hop on here every so often. If any big changes happen to CSM you'll see me here a lot for a week or two, until then though I just help people with lists. Happy gaming!
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"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 21:20:58
Subject: Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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dragoonmaster101 wrote:Thank you all! Any more post are welcome, but I have some confusion because after I checked my codex I asked myself this question, "What in the wild wacky chaotic world is a hellblade heldrake?" I checked and I only saw dakka drake and bale drake is there something I'm missing. Also, the reason I didn't take a heldrake is because of the lack of a melee option and if there is one count me in! But... What should I take out my wallets a generous person, but Christmas can only be so expensive. Edit: Srry can't paper craft. One I really like having an official army and two because I have absolutely no friends who play 40k (Their loss  ) I will play at a games workshop with some of the employes who even though I'm a bit younger than them are willing to invite me to 40k and bringing papercraft models will make them revoke their statement
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Changer! you were the guy who originally helped me build this list never thought I would ever talk to you again thanks man for all of your help.
A hellblade is a Forge World CSM flyer. Its rules are in Imperial Armor: 13. I get that you don't want to papercraft, but it is ironically appropriate to make it out of paper AV10 all around with 2 HP. Puts out respectable dakka for cheap though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/08 21:53:23
Subject: [1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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I feel your pain dragonmaster, none of my friends play 40k or any tabletop games for that matter...lameness. If you're in the southeast us and you're looking for a game I'm always down to play pending my work schedule, often out of town but hey they pay my bills and feed my warhammer habit.
That being said I really like the theme of the list. You have good amount of saturation and plenty of threats to make an opponent really think about what he will let get to him. The only thing I would really look out for would be " Death Star" type lists particularly grey knights as their 2+ Saves and warp charges would be tough for the list to counter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 04:37:21
Subject: [1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Guys since I'm really new I have one question. To start off I'm a pretty good strategist, but a leader I am not so lets say a land raider is destroyed with all of its guys in it or a maulerfiend is shot down from across the board and therefore the other is really weak because of the loss of attack downs. I would understand what to do if I was a ranged army (pull back and regroup), but all pulling back would be with a melee army is get the all shot at going back and charging back in making the retreat a determent so if it all going to "necrons 5th edition"
what should I do?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 10:29:53
Subject: Re:[1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Hellacious Havoc
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Blood for the Blood God!
I always like assault lists, and yours is a very decent one.
My only suggestion would be to consider using a melee equipped CSM squad.
Zerkers suit the theme but I really don't think they are worth their points this edition.
They get +1WS, Furious Charge, Fearless, MoK and VotLW at +6pts/model from a standard CSM. With a CSM squad however, you are a lot more flexible and don't suffer too much in return.
Example:
8-man Zerker Squad with Power Fist + Melta Bombs = 192pts (your exact choice)
9-man CSM squad = 127pts
7x replace bolter with CCW at 0 cost.
1x additional CCW at +2pts and then replace that bolter with a flamer or meltagun. (Since your LRs have them combi-meltas, consider the flamer here @+5pts or the meltagun for just in case @10pts)
MoK @ +18pts
Icon of Wrath @+20pts (Furious Charge + re-roll assault moves)
+ VotLW @+9pts (Since these guys will have Kharn and the other Lord with them for Fearless, this is only good for Hatred vs. Marines.)
This makes 181pts (186 with Meltagun).
Then you can spend the remaining on champions, which admittedly doesn't leave much (9/4pts per champion) but just enough to get melta bombs.
You gain: +1 body (4x s5 attacks on assault), a flamer or a meltagun (thin out hordes or pop that transport), re-roll assault distances.
You lose: Power Fist, -1WS
IMO, a Power Fist is wasted on anything short of a Plague Champion or a Nurglite Biker champion anyway
Edit: Running Crimson Slaughter would give them Fear, but then you cannot take VotLW. If you're up against a lot of MEQ, VotLW stands out. Fear is more useful against Xenos and Guardsmen though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 14:56:56
Subject: [1500] - Chaos Space Marines All Melee
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Faux Zerkers!
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