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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 17:05:35
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I am new to FoW and just wondering if the other scales sizes 1/72, 1/76, 1/87, 1/144 seem to work with Fow 1/100 scale? Mainly wondering about vehicles and buildings. Thanks Theo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 17:29:44
Subject: Re:Other scales that work with FoW
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Executing Exarch
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If you scale up, you're going to have two primary issues. The first issue is how to deal with stands. Since gun teams and infantry teams are composed of multi-model stands, you need to have a way to properly represent this on the battlefield. And larger sized figures are going to require larger bases to mount everyone on. The second is table space. Flames of War is a company-level game, which means that you're going to have quite a few more figures on the table than you would if you were running, say, Bolt Action. That means more table space (particularly if someone's running Soviets), which might not be available. And even if it is available, there's also the issue of maximum practical table sizes. Having a 10' x 10' table sounds nice... until someone brings up the issue of arms length, and the center of the table.
That doesn't mean that you can't use larger figures. It merely points out the issues in doing so.
You'll also probably want to tweak the movement distances and shooting ranges. Otherwise, you might end up (at 28mm scale) with SMG-armed infantry that can't fire the length of a tank.
In the other direction, scaling down is quite viable. Using 6mm figures (for instance, GHQ's Microarmor) is an option if you're so inclined.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 17:30:53
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've heard (and agree) that 1/144 is a good alternative scale for FoW. The larger scales might look strange with some of the game scale compression (e.g., a 1/72 soldier can only shoot 16").
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 18:56:04
Subject: Re:Other scales that work with FoW?
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Fresh-Faced New User
Michigan
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I like the 15mm figures so I will stick with them. I was thinking about adding/using buildings of the 1/76 scale for terrain pieces. I am assuming building are so different sizes and shapes anyway it would probably not matter much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 19:25:37
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Think 6mm would work easily, GHQ among others do suitable models as noted, have wondered on getting some of that myself for tank v tank actions
Given what FoW tries to do would very much go for smaller models not larger ones
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 19:38:12
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Lieutenant General
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leopard wrote:Think 6mm would work easily, GHQ among others do suitable models as noted, have wondered on getting some of that myself for tank v tank actions
Given what FoW tries to do would very much go for smaller models not larger ones
6mm may be a bit small, as Flames of War is approximately 15mm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 21:06:04
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I think you are good to go using buildings and terrain that are slightly off scale. Lots of people I know use HO scale train terrain and it looks fine.
Edit: I think HO is about 1:80? so that gives you some idea. Since the scale is small already I don't think anyone will be able to tell if you use a 1/87 size hut as opposed to a 1/100
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 21:14:12
Subject: Re:Other scales that work with FoW?
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Hulking Hunter-class Warmech
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I have an Airfix 1:76 building that looks OK scale-wise with 1:100 figures.
You couldn't mix the two scales of building on a board; but in isolation they'll work well enough for gaming purposes.
Vehicles/infantry in that scale are far too large to work properly though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/09 22:25:06
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Many players have done 6mm (aka 1/144) FoW and it actually looks better IMHO.
The ranges look a little more realistic for rifle fire and basing the tanks also helps minimize (not eliminate) visual silliness of tank parking lots.
Here's an example of how nice it can look when done well (I personally prefer the vehicles to be based); as you can see in the WWPD report, they clump the tanks up ala 'parking lot' that gets FoW a lot of flak from detractors.
http://www.beastsofwar.com/groups/flames-of-war/forum/topic/fow-north-africa-in-6mm/
http://www.wwpd.net/2010/10/microfow-6mm-fow-soviets-v-germans.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/10 01:01:08
Subject: Re:Other scales that work with FoW?
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Major
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Theo713 wrote:I like the 15mm figures so I will stick with them. I was thinking about adding/using buildings of the 1/76 scale for terrain pieces. I am assuming building are so different sizes and shapes anyway it would probably not matter much.
The buildings in that scale will work fine, They will be a bit big.But not so much you will not use them. i have heard alot of good thing about the Airfix building kits that they do match up pretty good with the scale,Also remember that BF infantry are more aound a 17-18 mm or 15mm Heroic scale. so that helps a little too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/10 02:15:32
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Lieutenant General
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I believe he's asking for scales that work with Flames of War models, not replaces them.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/10 02:50:53
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My error. Ignore what I wrote, then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 09:55:24
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Major
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Sorry to be a pedant but 1/44 is 10mm. 6mm is 1/300 or 1/285.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/11 19:59:28
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
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I have a friend doing Arab Israeli FoW at 3mm. He's basing everything on pennies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 22:45:44
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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LuciusAR wrote:
Sorry to be a pedant but 1/44 is 10mm. 6mm is 1/300 or 1/285.
Good catch.
Sorry to be pedant back but 1/44 is not a standard scale at all unless you're talking about certain model airplanes that are REALLY big
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 23:21:55
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Lieutenant General
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1/144 is the scale used for the fighters in Flames of War
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/12 23:41:23
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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He was pointing out the typo in the post
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/13 03:18:49
Subject: Other scales that work with FoW?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yep, I was funning LuciusAR back for correcting me while making another error (typo) himself
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