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Hi,

I'm new to playing guard and have an event coming up, there's no stronghold assault, Knights, escalation, etc. even formations and one or two others.

Since I can't run my scion formation, I have to use some guard. I could use Scions still, just without the benefits hurts.

Without stronghold assault I think air superiority will still be nice, so I thought of:

Lord Commissar (no upgrades, just for ld boost of the OOTF)
CCS, officer of the fleet, 4 plasmas

2x10 vets with 3 melta
2x10 vets with 3 flamer (waste of bs4, but in teams of 2 squads I can clear objectives)

2 chimera, 1 HF, HF the other HF, MM with dozers and camo nets (to try and survive)

3 Valkyries with pods, ML, and sponsons. (can't fire all weapons, but still helpful I find for anti eldar EQ air)
Vendetta (for anti air)


Do you think I'm better off with another detta, dropping a valk? I could restructure it into infantry platoons and save points, but don't know if I'm better off with special weapon squads holding those guns with 6 models.

Keen to hear thoughts. I have another chimera I could convert, 2 hell hounds, 10 ratlings, 10 more vets, 4 snipers, and hq models.




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I should add, it's a largish event - 150 players I think, to give an idea of the variety I'll face.

Is the CCS going in the Chimera at the moment?

The LC does nothing to the OOTF LD test. (Re-read the rules on it, BRB and Dex support the idea that you only ever roll on the OOTF's LD) If the CCS is the Warlord, I wouldn't make them a plasma-death-squad either, because you don't want a fairly easy to kill unit that gives a VP on the frontlines.

I would take an ADL and comms array, then take a CCS with at most 4 snipers or 2 snipers and a heavy weapon. Just make sure they're hidden behind solid LOS blocking cover at game start against opponents with nastier reach.

Wasn't sure where they were going, probably Valkyrie. There's also no stronghold assault as mentioned.

I've taken a few bits on board and now we have the following,

Ccs - 4 snipers, plas pistol for commander (modelling choice) (all snipers are prone catachans)

2x catachan vet squads - demolitions, 3 with Flamers, 3 with MG
2x chimeras - camo nets, dozer blades, HF/HF

2x kasrkin squads (vets) - carapace, 3 plas, 3 MG
2x Valkyries - missile pods and ML

5x ratlings (to hide like CSS mostly, plus had 50 pts left over)

2x vendettas

Which is looking better to the vets out there?

Thanks in advance