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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 22:25:15
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Fickle Fury of Chaos
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Hi everyone! Just looking for some CC on this list. Not playing against anything in particular but intend for this to be an all comers list. My local meta have not moved into flyers yet so here it is.
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Ethereal 50pts
ELITES
Crisis Suit 22pts
2x Plasma guns 30pts
Crisis Suit 22pts
2x Burst Cannon 20pts
Crisis Suit 22pts
2x Missle Pods 30pts
TROOPS
6x Fire Warriors 54pts
6x Fire Warriors 54pts
6x Fire Warriors 54pts
6x Fire Warriors 54pts
FAST ATTACK
4x Pathfinders 44pts
4x Pathfinders 44pts
List comes out to 500pts on the nose. Please reply with any suggestions or comments.
The goal of the army as it is built is the have lots of units for board control and objective grabbing. Missile Suit starts on table for str7 shots across the board and the other 2 DS seperatly where needed to thin ranks with 4 Shots of plasma on heavier units and 8 str5 for light infantry. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 22:30:42
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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at 500 points i don't think a plasma will be needed too much, let alone two. Depending on the enemy list i'd leave one in and swap the second out for a burst cannon. I can see one being good for terminators, deamons, and a few elites. But at 500 points most people aren't rocking too many heavy supports that will pose such a large issue
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3500 Imperium army
1250 Nidzilla
1000 Chaos army
1000 Drukhari Raiding Force |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 22:52:22
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Fickle Fury of Chaos
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So you recommend removing 1plasma rifle from a suit and equiping it as a crisis with a plasma and burst cannon? It does take 5 points off my list but do you feel like it does anything set up like the way you suggest that it wouldnt be able to do with dual plasma? Or maybe I am misunderstanding your advice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 23:18:58
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't really see the benefits of a Burst Cannon suit with all those Fire Warriors. I'd go for at least one Fusion suit for vehicles. I'd put the suits in a squad as well to make better use of the MLs. Something like:
Ethereal = 50
FW x6 = 54
FW x6 = 54
FW x6 = 54
Pathfinder x4 = 44
Pathfinder x4 = 44
Crisis x2, Fusion x4 = 104
Crisis x2, Missile Pod x4 = 104
Total = 508, drop a gun where you don’t need one and add a flamer or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/15 23:29:26
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Fickle Fury of Chaos
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I like that idea. I would think at 500 pts if i had 2 suits together for AV I could probably have 1 suit with 2x FB and the second one in the unit would be 1x FB and 1x Flamer i suppose. 3 FB should be able to deal with most armor and the flamer could toast some infantry the next turn if it works out that way. I like that. Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 02:14:04
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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I change my vote. That above list is very nice!
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3500 Imperium army
1250 Nidzilla
1000 Chaos army
1000 Drukhari Raiding Force |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 04:18:04
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Ryuken87's list is nice, but against marines you could have a bit of bad luck. Say your two fusion suits get insta-killed by a couple of missiles sitting at the back of their deployment zone, you don't have anything that will either deny marines their 3+ saves, or present them with too many saves to make because your FWs won't be in range for that buff.
I'd say swap the ethereal for a fireblade, then merge 2 units into 1 so you have a big unit that can spit out 26 shots in total at 30". The other unit would then sit on an objective in cover etc and take pot shots.
Also, I reckon you would get better use out of your if you replaced missile pods with plasma.
This is just a consideration if you find yourself with a few marine players to deal with (I certainly have this problem)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 11:26:58
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Fickle Fury of Chaos
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yeah, I discovered this last night during a game. I really do prefer the plasma guns to missile pods especially after my game. The fusions worked great on a transport but after that for the rest of the game plasma would have been much more reliable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 16:40:40
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I don't know their points cost, but would it be worth taking shield a shield drone or two on the suits? I always run las or missile with my DA at 500, meaning I'll probably take out 2 suits a turn if there's not much cover and you don't have something protecting them.
I would say to take some plasma, and not necessarily as much fusion. Do you get many people playing heavy armor? TFG with a vindicator? If not, all the fusion is a bit overkill. The fireblade is probably a better choice too, because dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/16 16:59:14
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Fickle Fury of Chaos
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shield drones are 10 points. So it could be useful in making them last. I honestly dont expect much heavy armor at 500 points like you say and after trying the list posted above I felt myself needing more firepower and not just 3 Fusions. Definatly want to try your suggestions out next game. Thanks for your critique!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/17 01:17:18
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Disbeliever of the Greater Good
London, UK
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Hi guys,
As I am also experimenting with a 500pt Tau list rather than start a new thread I thought I'd throw my list in for consideration & comparison.
HQ 110
Ethereal
Cadre Fireblade
Elite 136
TL Plasma XV8
Plasma/Missile XV8
TL Fusion XV8
Troops 197
7 x Fire Warriors
Devilfish
6 x Fire Warriors
Fast Attack 55
5 x Pathfinders
Total 498
Ethereal goes with the larger FW squad in the transport, supported by the Suits.
Fireblade holds the back field
Pathfinders support
What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/17 01:22:38
Subject: [500] - Tau
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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As said, you need one type of anti-armor or another. How about dropping the burst cannon suit, and a troop of fire warriors in exchange for a Broadside (Heavy MP or RR) and two rail or or ion rifles on one of the pathfinders. Should still leave enough points to get a fire cadre instead of an etheral.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/17 02:54:49
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Warwick Kinrade
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4 x Firewarriors in the OP list are overkill at 500 points, and you probably only need one pathfinder unit as at this points level volume of shots tends to count more than the accuracy of them. I would drop some of them and put a single missileside in for some heavy fire support, give him EWO to deal with any reserves or deep strikers and a coupe of missile drones to act as ablative armour (just make sure he is near the ethereal though, in my experience they tend to leg it by failing a morale check on the loss of a drone  ). Something like this;
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Ethereal 50pts
ELITES
Stealth Suits x3, BC, Counterfire Defence System, 95pts
Crisis Suit x1, Dual Fusion, NSJ, 54pts
Crisis Suit x1, Dual Plasma Rifle, Advanced Targeting System 55pts
TROOPS
6x Fire Warriors 54pts
6x Fire Warriors 54pts
FAST ATTACK
4x Pathfinders 44pts
Heavy
1x Broadside, TL HYMP, TL SMS, EWO, 2x Missile Drones 94pts
500pts on the nose
Have put the stealth suits in there too as they are very cost effective when compared to crisis. Also some cheap toys with the left over points to make the game more interesting - counter fire for the stealth as if you have infiltrated them they will more than likely get charged, and it compliments the BC quite nicely. Advanced targeting for the plasma rifles so you can go after the warlord if he is in a unit, and NSJ just because it is hilarious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/12/18 02:09:24
Subject: Re:[500] - Tau
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Rewind wrote:Hi guys,
As I am also experimenting with a 500pt Tau list rather than start a new thread I thought I'd throw my list in for consideration & comparison.
HQ 110
Ethereal
Cadre Fireblade
Elite 136
TL Plasma XV8
Plasma/Missile XV8
TL Fusion XV8
Troops 197
7 x Fire Warriors
Devilfish
6 x Fire Warriors
Fast Attack 55
5 x Pathfinders
Total 498
Ethereal goes with the larger FW squad in the transport, supported by the Suits.
Fireblade holds the back field
Pathfinders support
What do you think?
I think you should probably not hijack other peoples' threads in the future
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