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Made in gb
Been Around the Block




North East, UK

Hi all, I'm looking for some advice from some experienced members of the community on my current dilemma.

I've realised that pretty much all of my Necron army list is based around shooting (Barring a unit of Wraiths). Basically Ive heard that Tau are experts when it comes to Ranged/Shooting attacks and can deal some serious firepower, and have some awesome rules to compliment this.

Based on 7'th edition rules etc, do you think Tau are my better suited army? What differences should I be aware of etc?

Thanks!
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




May as well wait 3 more weeks until the Necrons get their new codex. Hopefully next week or two weeks from now we should be getting the rumour rules for Necrons.

So wait before you want to start Tau. You may want to do Tau if Necrons get nerfed too much, or they may even be more rock solid or stay the same. So wait.

Also play an army you like, not just because it's better. While people still say Tau are strong, they are not winning the tourney scene and can be very boring if all you want to do is stand still and just shoot. If that is your play style then I guess they are perfect for you, but if it's not your play style you won't like them then.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
Made in ca
Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer




My personal rule of thumb when it comes to 40k is to pick an army that I think looks cool. After all, modeling and painting is a big part of the hobby. Whether my army is strong or not, it won't be worthwhile if I don't enjoy painting them and looking at them in my display case. After all, rules will change over the years. For all we know, Tau could get nerfed to hell in their next codex, making them almost useless. Your models, however, will always be there.

Necrons and Tau are both good armies at the moment, though as Davor said, Necrons are about to get a new release any week now, So while you wait to see the updated rules, think of this : which army do you prefer aesthetically?

What do you call a lasgun with a laser sight? Twin-linked. 
   
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The oceans of the world

Hotrod wrote:
My personal rule of thumb when it comes to 40k is to pick an army that I think looks cool. After all, modeling and painting is a big part of the hobby. Whether my army is strong or not, it won't be worthwhile if I don't enjoy painting them and looking at them in my display case. After all, rules will change over the years. For all we know, Tau could get nerfed to hell in their next codex, making them almost useless. Your models, however, will always be there.

Necrons and Tau are both good armies at the moment, though as Davor said, Necrons are about to get a new release any week now, So while you wait to see the updated rules, think of this : which army do you prefer aesthetically?


This is most important. Never play for power, as those players are usually looked down on. Play for what looks cool, and shape what looks cool to fit your play style. I for one have never liked the looks of necrons, and would never start an army of them because of that, no matter how good they were
   
Made in us
Drop Trooper with Demo Charge




New Jersey

Why I just began Tau, I saw the Riptide and Broadside dudes and absolutely fell in love with them.

Who Dares Wins 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




elnino1102 wrote:
Why I just began Tau, I saw the Riptide and Broadside dudes and absolutely fell in love with them.


And this is a great reason to start Tau. Sadly a lot of people who use to play Tau only played because they wanted to win with plastic toy soldiers.

Do you really want to be that person who never played Tau or Eldar in 5th edition and never played them in the beginning of 6th edition and only started playing them once they got a new codex and it was more powerful than all the others. And some of those people don't even touch their Tau minis and just their Eldar minis because Tau and Eldar are not battlebrothers no more.

Do you really want to be that person?

Play Tau because you like themt. As was said already, you like them aesthetically. You will enjoy painting them, you will enjoy modelling them. Same for Necrons. Hell do both. Just don't do it to win with plastic toy soldiers because all you will do is be upset when they will be sitting on your shelf or even worse in a box collecting dust. If you need to win with plastic toy soldiers, then fine that is the way you play. If not, all you will be doing is wasting money and you will not be happy with your purchase. You will ALWAYS be thinking what is better, what is the next thing.

Are you going to be "Flavour of the Month" player? Are you going to be always buying the next thing? Will this make you happy? If so, nothing wrong with it, this is what gives you enjoyment.

Here is another question. Why not just collect both armies? Get the best of both worlds?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Doesn't really matter. Even if you do only play Tau because you like the models people are still going to resent you for it regardless. You're still going to be "that person" to a lot of people just by virtue of having been drawn to an army that they feel has "ruined" the game by merely existing, and if you care at all what other people think about you then they aren't really an option.

In any case I wouldn't switch over just because of the rules, and I wouldn't get rid of the Necrons if you do decide to get some Tau, either.

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Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.


"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." 
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block




North East, UK

 Sidstyler wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Even if you do only play Tau because you like the models people are still going to resent you for it regardless. You're still going to be "that person" to a lot of people just by virtue of having been drawn to an army that they feel has "ruined" the game by merely existing, and if you care at all what other people think about you then they aren't really an option.

In any case I wouldn't switch over just because of the rules, and I wouldn't get rid of the Necrons if you do decide to get some Tau, either.


Thanks for the input, it's not only because of the rules it's also because I need to spend around £200+ to complete what I believe to be a competive Necron list! So I was considering keeping hold of the Necrons I have for smaller less serious games then using that £200.00 start fresh with an army that compliments my play style.

Although, are Tau competitive these days?
   
Made in ro
Dakka Veteran




Regarding 'play what you like': this game is not balanced in any shape and form (although newer codexes are better balanced vs. each other, internal balance still sucks) so there's a reasonable chance what you like will suck on the table.

Therefore, unless winning or losing has absolutely no bearing on your enjoyment of the game, don't play what you like before you've done your homework and are comfortable with how powerful what you like really is.
   
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Trustworthy Shas'vre



california

See I chose vanilla marines for drop pod marines since it was a competetive list... I played it for a year hoping I would grow to love it and never did. I finally realized my mistake, took the time to research tons of fluff from all of the armies, and realized orks are the army for me... So do a lot of research on the lore, the model aesthetics, the feel of the army. Watch bat reps and reviews. Read articles about individual units and characters. Write a couple of lists of what you would like to field and see how it feels. My two cents.
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




 RedEyeJedi21 wrote:
 Sidstyler wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Even if you do only play Tau because you like the models people are still going to resent you for it regardless. You're still going to be "that person" to a lot of people just by virtue of having been drawn to an army that they feel has "ruined" the game by merely existing, and if you care at all what other people think about you then they aren't really an option.

In any case I wouldn't switch over just because of the rules, and I wouldn't get rid of the Necrons if you do decide to get some Tau, either.


Thanks for the input, it's not only because of the rules it's also because I need to spend around £200+ to complete what I believe to be a competive Necron list! So I was considering keeping hold of the Necrons I have for smaller less serious games then using that £200.00 start fresh with an army that compliments my play style.

Although, are Tau competitive these days?


Yes they are. They may not be as powerful as they were in 6th with Tau/Eldar allies but they are still strong and good from what I read. If you like shooting they should fit you perfectly. Just curious now, how much are you going to spend on a new Tau army? I am sure that money will be better spent on doing what you want with Necrons.

Again wait 3 more weeks until the new Necron codex comes out. You may find out you love what is in it or hate it or indifference with it and will make you more happier to start a new Tau army. Nothing worse you start a new Tau army and then regret it because the new Necron codex is so much better for your play style or you love what's in it.

Unless you have money for both, I say wait till February and make sure. Do your research for Tau, ask more specific questions on are they competitive. yes they are competitive. Thing is, what is your play style? Maybe Tau are not your play style even though they are a shooty army. Do you like to sit and not move and just shooty? For a lot of people this is boring. From what I gather this is the Tau play style, but some Tau players say they are a shooty and moving army. Others disagree.

So what is your play style? What do you like? What don't you like? Do you need to win or like to win but still have fun when you loose? Do you want some Close Combat options in as well? How about the psychic phase? Do you want to do that? Tau and Necrons don't have that so I guess that is a moot point but maybe for other shooty armies have that, so you may want to consider that.

So what do you want besides competiveness?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
 
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