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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte






Running Vanquishers I usually run a hull lascannon and a hunter-killer (for alpha strike). I'm wondering if thats the best loadout, or whether or not to consider sponsons. I've though about Multimeltas but their range puts me off. Anyone got any advice?

3000pts 30 wins 2 draws 12 loses

5000pts 13 wins 1 draws 9 losses

WoC "where the points don't matter" 6 wins 0 draws 4 losses

Things my Giant has pocketed for later in AoS: 1 zombie, 2 spirit hosts, 1 banshee, 1 zombie dragon, assorted phoenix guard

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Rough Rider with Boomstick




Find a way to give it BS4 and/or TL. Then add a LC and MM.
And more seriously IG Vanquishers are sliightly junk unless you put Pask in them and he does better in a Punisher.
Search for the Armoured battlegoup List from Forge World, look for the (arguably more expencive points wise) Command Vanquisher there and weep.

You shouldn't be worried about the one bullet with your name on it, Boldric. You should be worried about the ones labelled "to whom it may concern"-from Blackadder goes Forth!
 
   
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte






Yeah I used to run the armoured battlegroup til the new dex. Do you find you get much use out of the MM's? The range is the only thing putting me off

3000pts 30 wins 2 draws 12 loses

5000pts 13 wins 1 draws 9 losses

WoC "where the points don't matter" 6 wins 0 draws 4 losses

Things my Giant has pocketed for later in AoS: 1 zombie, 2 spirit hosts, 1 banshee, 1 zombie dragon, assorted phoenix guard

X-wing: Scum and Villainy  
   
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald





With how expensive it is, you need all the shots you can get. Plus this lets you deal with MCs that are rushing your lines.
   
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Rough Rider with Boomstick




Whenenver i play IG the opponent always closes with me. The MMs are shooting from turn 2. From turn 1 if going second.

You shouldn't be worried about the one bullet with your name on it, Boldric. You should be worried about the ones labelled "to whom it may concern"-from Blackadder goes Forth!
 
   
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant




Personally I think the vanquisher shouldn't be fielded except in really high point games (3000 +). But if you must field it in a lower point game I say Las cannon, HK and no sponsons. The only reason you should take it is if your play group is crazy armour or mc heavy and therefore the only thing it should be doing is armor or mc hunting. If you run out of big things to shoot at you can always tank shock or use it as a screen for things to hide behind.

If your group allows it to be fielded, The lemun russ annihilator is a better choice IMO

 
   
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte






Ran the numbers on the annihilator, against light armour (AV10) its twice as good as the vanquisher cannon, but against heavy armour (AV14) the vanq cannon is twice as good as the lascannons. There about the same at AV12.

3000pts 30 wins 2 draws 12 loses

5000pts 13 wins 1 draws 9 losses

WoC "where the points don't matter" 6 wins 0 draws 4 losses

Things my Giant has pocketed for later in AoS: 1 zombie, 2 spirit hosts, 1 banshee, 1 zombie dragon, assorted phoenix guard

X-wing: Scum and Villainy  
   
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!!Goffik Rocker!!






You can try plazmacannon sponsons for your vanquisher. Lots of ap2 goodness and further range than multimeltas.
   
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant




 Corinthius wrote:
Ran the numbers on the annihilator, against light armour (AV10) its twice as good as the vanquisher cannon, but against heavy armour (AV14) the vanq cannon is twice as good as the lascannons. There about the same at AV12.


Just making sure, did you adjust for re-rolls of the annihilator being twin-linked? Either way 2X as effective vs light Armour is nothing to snort at . I guess it would just depend on how much heavy armor you expect to face.

 
   
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte






I used the MathHammer site, yeah thats with all re-rolls and armourbane and everything. Might get a turret to switch for a vanq turret depending what I'm facing, both pretty good though.

3000pts 30 wins 2 draws 12 loses

5000pts 13 wins 1 draws 9 losses

WoC "where the points don't matter" 6 wins 0 draws 4 losses

Things my Giant has pocketed for later in AoS: 1 zombie, 2 spirit hosts, 1 banshee, 1 zombie dragon, assorted phoenix guard

X-wing: Scum and Villainy  
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




I am using the guard to supplement my Grey Knights and add anti-armor capabilities. Vanquisher fits the bill perfectly.
I will use 2 nemesis dreadknights and some terminators in valkyrie's to bring the fight in close. An Aegis line w/ comm relay to make sure everything comes in, and also the aegis line provides cover save for 2 Vanquisher's.
   
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot




West Chester, PA

Used to run 2 Company Command Vanquishers with a hull Lascannon. With beat-hunter shells they sat in the back and removed literally any big threat.

Without BS4 and beat-hunters? I wouldn't rely on them to do much each turn.

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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant




Just because I had never ran the numbers before I was curious about the Lemun Russ Annihilator vs the Exterminator in vech combat. In my math the Annihilator and exterminator were about even vs. AV 10 .

The annihilator was obviously superior vs av 12

The exterminator could not do any damage vs av 14.

So the annihiltor really is a good mid range anti-armor choice especially if you are going up against something like mechanized guard where you could see several av 10 - 12 .

 
   
 
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