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**gendoikari87**

ChaosxVoid wrote:xv 9 hazard suits, pretty sure 190 points plus sheild drone (: too lazy to get the book

what guns?

**felixthecat345**

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Alternatively, 200 guardsmen, 5 ACs, 5 lascannons- 1150 pts

**gendoikari87**

Edit: that's better.

but that unit is way too much.

but anyway

6 Manticores with camo netting -1140

6d3 templates a turn. with a 3+ cover save. much longer range, they can just sit outside the range of any of that and blast away.

**felixthecat345**

7 deathstrikes w/ camo netting, 1120 pts

**IronChaos**

Spinegaunt: 5 points

**gendoikari87**

felixthecat345 wrote:7 deathstrikes w/ camo netting, 1120 pts

as a single spinegaunt is not going to kill 7 deathstrikes in it's wildest dreams I'll continue with this

10 Broadsides with 2 shield drones each 1000 points.

go ahead get off your super missiles You'll roll a one somewhere.

**felixthecat345**

double post

**Inquisitor_Syphonious**

gendoikari87 wrote:
phantommaster wrote:You nicked mine, no fair , oh well Predator Annihilator, hmm 185 I believe in BA Codex.

XV 8 [73] [TL fusion Blaster, Drone Controller, 2 shield drones]

meh, we'll go with over kill

XV 8 [73] [TL fusion Blaster, Drone Controller, 2 shield drones]

146 points total.

Ignoring the other posters...

3 Warwalkers with dual scatter lasers.

180 points of...:

24 s6 ap6 shots a turn.

Three vehicles.

Three seperate squads.

**gendoikari87**

won't work. XV8s deep strike. then you are left with only one to deal with two suits

**MenOfTanith**

Cadian Snipers (Codex not to hand )
-Silence-
CRACKK
"Dude wheres your head gone!?!"

**MenOfTanith**

Cadian Snipers (Codex not to hand )
-Silence-
CRACKK
"Dude wheres your head gone!?!"

**Guitardian**

Harlequins, 5, Death Jester, Shadowseer, kisses. I go where I want, charge when I want, you come to me I charge you, you don't come to me its a game of "I can shoot you but you can't shoot me!"
Toss in a fusion gun so I can also AT you.
156 points.

**phantommaster**

Eversor Assasin... x2 FTW, 190pts
12" Charge, 4 +D6 Attacks, wounding on 3+'s, and an invulnerable for your fusion gun.

**Fafnir**

You can't legally take two Eversor in a list.

**Inquisitor_Syphonious**

gendoikari87 wrote:won't work. XV8s deep strike. then you are left with only one to deal with two suits

Ok, I can outflank...

MenOfTanith wrote:Cadian Snipers (Codex not to hand )
-Silence-
CRACKK
"Dude wheres your head gone!?!"

Guitardian wrote:Harlequins, 5, Death Jester, Shadowseer, kisses. I go where I want, charge when I want, you come to me I charge you, you don't come to me its a game of "I can shoot you but you can't shoot me!"
Toss in a fusion gun so I can also AT you.
156 points.

What was that at? It would not beat the walkers or the suits...

**Ethancol**

Brood of 3 Carnifex's

All Sytal's & Crushing Claws with bioplasma.. that's effectively 3 12" plasma cannon's and potentially 24 Strength 9 hits...

Something around 500...

TOP THAT!!

(Wait.don't)

**gendoikari87**

Ok, I can outflank...

so it comes down to who arrives first looses, still not a good way to beat a unit with 2 wounds each and a 3+ armor save.

Lets see three carnifexes...

two Land Raiders 500

**focusedfire**

gendoikari87 wrote:two Land Raiders 500

A Squadron of 4 Piranhas equipped Fusion Blasters, Targ Array, 2 w/ disruption pod and 2 w/Target lock...........300

**Guitardian**

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:

Guitardian wrote:Harlequins, 5, Death Jester, Shadowseer, kisses. I go where I want, charge when I want, you come to me I charge you, you don't come to me its a game of "I can shoot you but you can't shoot me!"
Toss in a fusion gun so I can also AT you.
156 points.

What was that at? It would not beat the walkers or the suits...

Death Jesters carry a S6 gun that shoots 3 times, and cannot be targetted by the walkers or the suits if you are smart and play cat-n-mouse. I have a hard time thinking an AV10 walker will stand up to much S6 fire, and the harlies are faster and can always float around 24" away just teasing a guy. I've used this squad many times and it annoys people so much I love it. No light vehicle is safe, but the Harlies are just sitting back there chuckling at 23" away teasing you because you cannot target them. That's the strength of the unit, not the traditional CHARGE with 40 rending attacks sort of thing they are usually played, but as a fly on the wall thats impossible to swat but keeps pickin at you.

**Dedrith**

There seems to be some confusion as to where we are in terms of units posted.

Resetting unit to 5 TH/SS Terminators in Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-melta - 460

**omgnowaiii**

Dedrith wrote:There seems to be some confusion as to where we are in terms of units posted.

Resetting unit to 5 TH/SS Terminators in Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-melta - 460

Zoanthrope to kill the landraider.
Swarmlord and 10 genestealers for the termies.

480 points.

**phantommaster**

Fafnir wrote:You can't legally take two Eversor in a list.

Good point!

Hmmm, tough one, for the Nids I would use 2x Manticores, at 120" away - of course - 320pts

**gendoikari87**

Death Jesters carry a S6 gun that shoots 3 times, and cannot be targetted by the walkers or the suits if you are smart and play cat-n-mouse. I have a hard time thinking an AV10 walker will stand up to much S6 fire

it's an av 12 walker not a av10.

2x Manticores, at 120" away - of course - 320pts

3 broadsides with 2 shield drones each-300 even.

**ChrisCP**

omgnowaiii wrote:
Dedrith wrote:There seems to be some confusion as to where we are in terms of units posted.

Resetting unit to 5 TH/SS Terminators in Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-melta - 460

Zoanthrope to kill the landraider.
Swarmlord and 10 genestealers for the termies.

480 points.

3x Ravagers with DL, Dizzy Dizzy, HorrorFex to keep you pinned.
345
1x Raider Squad w/ DL, Syabarite with Cruicible - just in case

131

[476]

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**Inquisitor_Syphonious**

phantommaster wrote:
Fafnir wrote:You can't legally take two Eversor in a list.

Good point!

Hmmm, tough one, for the Nids I would use 2x Manticores, at 120" away - of course - 320pts

You cannot pick how far away you want to be, think of how abusable that would be... "MoO at 99999"!!!!!!11!!!!!one1!!!!/1!!!

Assume that you are playing on a 4x4 or a 6x4 table.

Guitardian wrote:
Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:

Guitardian wrote:Harlequins, 5, Death Jester, Shadowseer, kisses. I go where I want, charge when I want, you come to me I charge you, you don't come to me its a game of "I can shoot you but you can't shoot me!"
Toss in a fusion gun so I can also AT you.
156 points.

What was that at? It would not beat the walkers or the suits...

Death Jesters carry a S6 gun that shoots 3 times, and cannot be targetted by the walkers or the suits if you are smart and play cat-n-mouse. I have a hard time thinking an AV10 walker will stand up to much S6 fire, and the harlies are faster and can always float around 24" away just teasing a guy. I've used this squad many times and it annoys people so much I love it. No light vehicle is safe, but the Harlies are just sitting back there chuckling at 23" away teasing you because you cannot target them. That's the strength of the unit, not the traditional CHARGE with 40 rending attacks sort of thing they are usually played, but as a fly on the wall thats impossible to swat but keeps pickin at you.

Yes, I own 25 harlequins, I know them in and out, walkers would trump them anyway.

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Some of the counters in this thread are still crazy...

**Guitardian**

cats and toddlers... zero points?

actually, one of those nobz plus painboy etc unkillable monstrosity on bikes mobz I've had to deal with a few times and they are disgustingly cheap for their game efficiency. I have no idea how many points his squad, I just knew not to even try to shoot at it and tarpit as soon as possible (even that didn't really work), and that they owned center field and I know he didn't pay that much for em, but I haven't my codex handy.

**gendoikari87**

You cannot pick how far away you want to be, think of how abusable that would be

No one can, so it is assumed that the longer range weapon hits first unless the counter has outflank and/or deep strike.

cats and toddlers... zero points?

Remember always spay and nueter you're pets.

**Guitardian**

and your toddlers...

**Nobody_Holme**

My cats are good, they only carry off my opponent's models...

for the bikernobz, (not sure on bikernobz points, so dont know how many I can ninja in)
2 or 3 Leman Rus Punishers, not in a squadron.

**ChrisCP**

Lets try this again...again...

Dedrith wrote:There seems to be some confusion as to where we are in terms of units posted.

Resetting unit to 5 TH/SS Terminators in Land Raider Crusader w/ Multi-melta - 460

omgnowaiii wrote:

Zoanthrope to kill the landraider.
Swarmlord and 10 genestealers for the termies.

480 points.

3x Ravagers with DL, Dizzy Dizzy, HorrorFex to keep you pinned.
345
1x Raider Squad w/ DL, Syabarite with Cruicible - just in case

131

[476]

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