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Wicked Canoptek Wraith





victoria, Australia. the place to be (Y)

So I have a small tournament coming up, and it will be my first time using Dark elves. I didn't want to use the same list as every other DE player in the store and spam Witches... so I thought I'd spam riders and magic instead!
The idea is pretty simple, outmaneuver everything and blast their armies with crossbows and magic!
I just need some opinions as to whether this list will actually work or not, so here it is!

Lord:
Supreme Sorceress
-level 4 upgrade
- dark steed

Heroes:
sorceress 80
- level 2 upgrade 35
- dark steed 20

sorceress
- level 2 upgrade
- dark steed

Core:
10x dark riders
- 10x shields
- 10x repeater crossbows
- musician
- standard

10x dark riders
- 10x shields
- 10x repeater crossbows
- musician
- standard

10x dark riders
- 10x shields
- 10x repeater crossbows
- musician
- standard

Rare:
5x doomfire warlocks
-master of warlocks

5x doomfire warlocks
-master of warlocks


If you think the list doesn't work, just say so. If it's terrible I don't really care I have another 3 possible lists to run, this one just seemed the most fun/funniest.

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Regular Dakkanaut




What Lores of Magic?
They are part of your Army List...
Three magic users at 1500 points?
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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos





Sorry can't disclose.....infiltrating

Well technically their is 5 casters on this list with the warlock units, way too much casters in this list tbh.

This list is extremely soft / prone to any type of leadership abuse and under any ranged pressure will probably fold


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Dangerous Leadbelcher




What size boards are you playing on? This list doesn't have a CC element, so you will have to avoid everything that the warlocks can't kill on their own. Consider cutting a few sorceresses, and adding a BSB and/or master.

You probably want a ward save on the lvl 4 and the BSB. You should also think about a dispel scroll, and/or an arcane item to enhance your casting for a magic spam army.

No real point putting standards in dark riders, unsupported they aren't a serious CC threat anyway. I'd go with units of 5/6 with musician.
   
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Stubborn White Lion





kooshlord wrote:
No real point putting standards in dark riders.

Other than the fact that you have the potential to almost auto-lose blood and glory scenarios.

Seems you really want to take this list so I'd be inclined to scrap at least one of the lvl 2s and add a BSB. Also I'd look at splitting the 2 of the dark riders into units of 5. Have your bsb and Lvl 4 in the unit of 10 for LOS. This way you will dominate deployment and movement.

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kooshlord wrote:
No real point putting standards in dark riders, unsupported they aren't a serious CC threat anyway. I'd go with units of 5/6 with musician.



5 Dark Riders with crossbows, musicians, shields and standards are a 4+ armour, M9 fast cav unit. They can go into a flank and win combats. The standards are a very good option.

Oh. And they cost 120 points.

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Wicked Canoptek Wraith





victoria, Australia. the place to be (Y)

I guess I forgot to mention my points aren't maxed out yet, I'll add all of the arcane items/scrolls once i figure out if this is payable or not.

I also neglected to mention this is a doubles tournament I'll be playing in, so this army is more for a support role rather than a direct charge into combat type role.

I might take some of the advice given and drop one level 2's and split one of the cav units.

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Dangerous Leadbelcher




Ah, doubles tourney changes things. Do you know who you are partnering with? Also, do you know what magic rules you are playing under?

If you are having two players with standard magic, and the other player has any casters at all, you are going to be starved for casting dice.

Re: Blood and glory, I sorta think this list almost auto-loses regardless of dark rider standards. If the enemy has shooting/magic offense, 10 wounds with 4+ armor die pretty quick. Depending on whether you count flags per side or per player, it might make sense to let your partner, who hopefully has some large blocks, hold the banners.
   
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith





victoria, Australia. the place to be (Y)

Not sure who I'll be teaming with yet, I might look for a Chaos partner though. Would like an ally with a lot of staying power.

I think you've got a pretty good point with the standards. I might drop the standards and both the level 2's and free up points for something else.. maybe a Hydra :'D

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Regular Dakkanaut




Maybe combine your warlock units to make a unit of 10. With this many casters in one list, you'll never get to use all in one phase anyways, so if you add a rank to the locks you'll at least increase the hekarti bonus, essentially making them a lvl 4 doombolt thrower.
   
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Sinister Shapeshifter




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bigcheese86 wrote:
Maybe combine your warlock units to make a unit of 10. With this many casters in one list, you'll never get to use all in one phase anyways, so if you add a rank to the locks you'll at least increase the hekarti bonus, essentially making them a lvl 4 doombolt thrower.


That's not why you take 2 units of 5.

A unit of 5 is a level 2 with soulblight. They're 125 points. They have 10 S4 poisoned attacks. They also have a 4+ ward.

That means they're a durable chaff drop that can function as a tirestrip unit if needs be. I've lost count of times where I move my warlocks back 18" to force a charge away from the rest of my army.

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Dangerous Leadbelcher




bigcheese86 wrote:
Maybe combine your warlock units to make a unit of 10. With this many casters in one list, you'll never get to use all in one phase anyways, so if you add a rank to the locks you'll at least increase the hekarti bonus, essentially making them a lvl 4 doombolt thrower.


Warlocks don't have the 'hekarti's blessing' rule, so they'd be a lvl3. I agree with TDA that 2 units generally provide more utility.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




kooshlord wrote:
bigcheese86 wrote:
Maybe combine your warlock units to make a unit of 10. With this many casters in one list, you'll never get to use all in one phase anyways, so if you add a rank to the locks you'll at least increase the hekarti bonus, essentially making them a lvl 4 doombolt thrower.


Warlocks don't have the 'hekarti's blessing' rule, so they'd be a lvl3. I agree with TDA that 2 units generally provide more utility.


They have cursed coven, which adds +1 to all casting attempts for each rank of 5. Lvl 2 plus 2 ranks = 4. And because they don't roll on the miscast table (d3 wounds, but they get the ward save still), if you get a good roll on the winds, you can toss some extra dice through them with relatively little potential backlash ie, boosted doombolt for 4d6 hits on 5 or 6 dice.
   
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Belfast

Its +1 for each rank after the 1st, so 10 is just casting at +3...

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