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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 14:21:44
Subject: Helbrutes
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
I... actually don't know. Help?
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I currently own two Helbrutes from DV, one with Lascannon and one with the normal MM. I'm thinking about buying a normal Dread to convert soon, so I need to know what the best loadout for this one would be.
I'm thinking about Lascannon+Missile Launcher, Power Fist and Thunder Hammer/Power Scourge, or TL Heavy Bolter for Infantry iklling. What do you guys think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:10:05
Subject: Re:Helbrutes
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Are you planning to deepstrike them?
If you do, one can go with a heavy flamer. It's risky to DS a helbrute within HF range but...why not? Other than that - can just go with another MM.
I'd recommend you to magnetize. As Helbrutes can be used in different ways and this ways ask for different loadouts. Can go with a scourge too.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/09 15:11:40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:11:47
Subject: Helbrutes
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
I... actually don't know. Help?
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Maybe, either by doing the Dataslate, or using a Dreadclaw.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:14:55
Subject: Re:Helbrutes
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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If dreadclaw, i'd go for double heavy flamer all the way. It's easier to position with a disembark move. If DS - probably a standard one - another ML + fist. Probably attach HF to a fist just in case.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/09 15:20:03
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:15:39
Subject: Helbrutes
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
Roswell, GA
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So far I enjoy using the auto cannons with the missile launchers. May need one for some CC at some point.
On another note with IA 13 you can get a song dreadnaught
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:17:38
Subject: Helbrutes
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
I... actually don't know. Help?
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Vash108 wrote:So far I enjoy using the auto cannons with the missile launchers. May need one for some CC at some point.
On another note with IA 13 you can get a song dreadnaught 
Autocannon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:31:45
Subject: Helbrutes
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Don't go with the Dreadclaw for your Helbrute. Daemonic Possession is insane at the moment and your Helbrute has a 1 in 6 chance of being eaten.
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:37:10
Subject: Helbrutes
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
I... actually don't know. Help?
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Voodoo_Chile wrote:Don't go with the Dreadclaw for your Helbrute. Daemonic Possession is insane at the moment and your Helbrute has a 1 in 6 chance of being eaten.
Where are the current rules for the Dreadclaw?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:39:52
Subject: Helbrutes
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Matthew wrote: Voodoo_Chile wrote:Don't go with the Dreadclaw for your Helbrute. Daemonic Possession is insane at the moment and your Helbrute has a 1 in 6 chance of being eaten.
Where are the current rules for the Dreadclaw?
You can find them in Imperial Armour 13.
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:45:09
Subject: Helbrutes
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
Roswell, GA
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Matthew wrote: Vash108 wrote:So far I enjoy using the auto cannons with the missile launchers. May need one for some CC at some point.
On another note with IA 13 you can get a song dreadnaught 
Autocannon?
Reaper Autocannon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:45:50
Subject: Re:Helbrutes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There's some nice variant Chaos Dreadnoughts in that forge world book: Actual Chaos Dreads instead of Hellbrutes with various gimmicks such as an upgrade where the pilot crawls out as either a Daemon Prince or a Chaos Spawn, the Noise Marine one, and of course the Contemptor and the boxy Daemon Engine thing I can't remember the name of that resembles a Dreadnought. The one that self repairs even after dying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 15:46:41
Subject: Helbrutes
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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Can someone let me know which book this is in?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 16:00:43
Subject: Helbrutes
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
I... actually don't know. Help?
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Vash108 wrote: Matthew wrote: Vash108 wrote:So far I enjoy using the auto cannons with the missile launchers. May need one for some CC at some point.
On another note with IA 13 you can get a song dreadnaught 
Autocannon?
Reaper Autocannon?
Ah. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Codex: Chaos Space Marines?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/09 16:01:06
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 16:16:47
Subject: Re:Helbrutes
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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I second magnetizing, more work but so worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/09 16:17:06
Subject: Helbrutes
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
Roswell, GA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 00:27:27
Subject: Helbrutes
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Voodoo_Chile wrote:Don't go with the Dreadclaw for your Helbrute. Daemonic Possession is insane at the moment and your Helbrute has a 1 in 6 chance of being eaten.
Not true.
Only if you re-imbark during the game.
Rule does not apply for models that start embarked on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 11:17:12
Subject: Helbrutes
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
I... actually don't know. Help?
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Hiskrtapps wrote: Voodoo_Chile wrote:Don't go with the Dreadclaw for your Helbrute. Daemonic Possession is insane at the moment and your Helbrute has a 1 in 6 chance of being eaten.
Not true.
Only if you re-imbark during the game.
Rule does not apply for models that start embarked on.
Yeah, it does.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/10 15:02:28
Subject: Helbrutes
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Hiskrtapps wrote: Voodoo_Chile wrote:Don't go with the Dreadclaw for your Helbrute. Daemonic Possession is insane at the moment and your Helbrute has a 1 in 6 chance of being eaten.
Not true.
Only if you re-imbark during the game.
Rule does not apply for models that start embarked on.
Dude 2nd paragraph of the Daemonic Possession rule. first sentence in brackets:
Page68 wrote:including rolling at the start of your first turn if a unit begins the game embarked upon such a vehicle
I mean this isn't a misinterpretation issue, it's literally in the rules.
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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