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Here's the latest version of my casual all-comers list that I'll be testing in the new year. I'm going to try 6-man squads in my little makeshift razorbacks instead of in squads of 10. Should prolly just run the Space Marine codex but that's neither here nor there. I don't expect to be winning tournaments but I think this is gonna be fun to try. I don't expect the havoc launders to deal any substantial damage but I've never used them before and they made the units easy to work with when calculating points. I keep my Night Lords as pure as the driven snow (lore/fluff option) and hope someday they'll bring back the Mark of Undivided. Not going to be using my Raptors or my jump pack Lord. Might swap in their lightning claws and turn them into Warp Talons. Pack of 5 plus my other Lord and an Aegis defense line would be an additional 350 points. That being said my Mayhem Pack w/ 3 stock Hellbrutes and an Aegis Defense Line would also be an additional 350 points for 1850 point games. (i could also add 10 Genestealers with a Broodlord and a Tyranid Prime with a bonesword and lashwhip for 350 points as well) So what do you guys think? It's an alright mix of stuff where I play (orks, nids, eldar, tau, guard. Still more heavy on the Space Marine side but...

HQ - 130

Chaos Lord
-power fist
-lightning claw
-sigil of corruption

ELITES - 420

3 Terminators
-chain fist
- combi-melta x2

3 Terminators
-chain fist
-combi-flamer x2

6 Chosen
-melta bombs
-meltagun x2
-rhino
-havoc launcher
-lord joins this unit

TROOPS - 465

6 CSM x3
-melta bombs
-plasma gun
-rhino
-havoc launcher

FAST ATTACK - 135

5 Bikers
-melta bombs
-meltagun x2

HEAVY SUPPORT - 350

Predator
-twin-linked lascannon
-lascannon sponsons

Predator
-autocannon
-heavy bolter sponsons

5 Havocs
-autocannon x4

TOTAL - 1500

I acquired a few Tyranid models a little while back and If I used this setup below it would give me an extra HQ and the Broodlord counts as a pysker. (has HQ-like stats himself)

HQ - 130

Tyranid Prime
-scything talons
-deathspitter

TROOPS - 220

5 Genestealers
-Broodlord
-unit contains 6 models

Tyranid Warrior Brood
-Tyranid Prime joins this unit

TOTAL - 350

The only thing I see lacking really here is anti air but then again I don't know if havoc launchers come with flak missiles or the option to take them? Other than that seems pretty balanced. I'm sure other people will try to pick it apart but as long as you have fun with it who cares

The Havocs w/ autocannons are taking over that roll. They don't have flakk or skyfire but 8 str 7 shots is enough deterrence at 1500 points i think. And no, the havoc launcher is str 5 blast and twin-linked.

I wish 8 ac shots was a AA deterent for me!

I agree that the AA just isn't there. Other than that is seems to be a good list and a lot of fun. The lore nerd in me cringes at so many terminators, but to each his own.

I have to completely agree wotb the lack of anti air im a chaos player and i run a fire raptor at 1000 let alone 1500 that 7 s6ap3 tein linked shots coning at you if i dont kill yoi with that i have 2 autocannons sponsons with another 6 s7 ap4 shots at you and then the rest of my units can die ive got a flying landraider.... maybe pay 50 points for an aegis and a quad gun youve then got the gun cover and 4 autocannons thats a a bit more worrying

I'll have to wait and see if air becomes a really big problem for me. I usually end up somewhat lucky with the dice. People where I play don't usually go overboard for casuals. Super heavy armor worries me more. I didn't think i went too overboard with my terminators. I had originally picked them up to march out of a land raid with their lightning claws swinging wildly. That proved to be way to expensive for what they are usually capable of so i broke it into two units of 3 with specific tasks in mind. I have an additional 4 havocs w/ missile launchers, a pair of land raiders (1 is in the painting process), 5 raptors, chaos lord w/ jump pack, another dozen marines and 3 hellbrutes (1 finished). I could probably find room for a defense line and quad gun. Def when i go 1750 and above.