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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/12 12:24:36
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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So I noticed most of the word bearers names take roots from Greek mythology, worship a "pantheon" of gods and the runes on their armor (Colschian) were confirmed to be the Greek alphabet in [/i]massacre[i].
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 1970/12/25 00:00:49
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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"Pantheon" is just a term when spoken about multiple gods/deitys.
And yes, the WB's are infuenced by Greco-Roman culture with some Middle Age crusaders mixed in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/12 15:15:53
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Bronzefists42 wrote:So I noticed most of the word bearers names take roots from Greek mythology, worship a "pantheon" of gods and the runes on their armor (Colschian) were confirmed to be the Greek alphabet in [/i]massacre[i].
Them worshiping a Pantheon means practically nothing, as just about everybody except for the Cult Imperialis worships a Pantheon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/12 17:00:07
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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dusara217 wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:So I noticed most of the word bearers names take roots from Greek mythology, worship a "pantheon" of gods and the runes on their armor (Colschian) were confirmed to be the Greek alphabet in [/i]massacre[i].
Them worshiping a Pantheon means practically nothing, as just about everybody except for the Cult Imperialis worships a Pantheon.
And even the Imperial Cult has an endless parade of saints. It's about as monotheistic as Catholicism. (Speaking as someone without a lot of knowledge of Catholicism speaking with no intent to offend attempting to describe the number of different distinct entities one can offer prayers to)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/12 17:02:23
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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AnomanderRake wrote: dusara217 wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:So I noticed most of the word bearers names take roots from Greek mythology, worship a "pantheon" of gods and the runes on their armor (Colschian) were confirmed to be the Greek alphabet in [/i]massacre[i].
Them worshiping a Pantheon means practically nothing, as just about everybody except for the Cult Imperialis worships a Pantheon.
And even the Imperial Cult has an endless parade of saints. It's about as monotheistic as Catholicism. (Speaking as someone without a lot of knowledge of Catholicism speaking with no intent to offend attempting to describe the number of different distinct entities one can offer prayers to)
proably less so when you consider in christinaity, god had 1 son. the GEOMK had 9 (well 9 that are reckongized across the IoM)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/12 23:45:43
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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AnomanderRake wrote: dusara217 wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:So I noticed most of the word bearers names take roots from Greek mythology, worship a "pantheon" of gods and the runes on their armor (Colschian) were confirmed to be the Greek alphabet in [/i]massacre[i].
Them worshiping a Pantheon means practically nothing, as just about everybody except for the Cult Imperialis worships a Pantheon.
And even the Imperial Cult has an endless parade of saints. It's about as monotheistic as Catholicism. (Speaking as someone without a lot of knowledge of Catholicism speaking with no intent to offend attempting to describe the number of different distinct entities one can offer prayers to)
Sorry, but saints aren't deities. They're people who have done miracles. A pantheon is a group of gods who interact with each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/13 00:46:36
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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Computron wrote: AnomanderRake wrote: dusara217 wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:So I noticed most of the word bearers names take roots from Greek mythology, worship a "pantheon" of gods and the runes on their armor (Colschian) were confirmed to be the Greek alphabet in [/i]massacre[i].
Them worshiping a Pantheon means practically nothing, as just about everybody except for the Cult Imperialis worships a Pantheon.
And even the Imperial Cult has an endless parade of saints. It's about as monotheistic as Catholicism. (Speaking as someone without a lot of knowledge of Catholicism speaking with no intent to offend attempting to describe the number of different distinct entities one can offer prayers to)
Sorry, but saints aren't deities. They're people who have done miracles. A pantheon is a group of gods who interact with each other.
As someone who was raised Catholic I can say the focus on saints and the holy trinity is very similar to polytheism. It may not directly be polytheism but it has elements of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/13 03:04:29
Subject: Re:Word Bearers greek/roman?
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They toss words around like "Pantheon" and things in that vein and Word Bearer names are ancient Greek inspired, but so are Ultramarines, but perhaps less roman influenced. I get a really harsh catholic vibe from them, though. The Word Bearers are kind of an antithesis to the Cult Imperialis, which actually makes them very conceptually similar to it. The 6e CSM codex has a little blurb in it about a few traitor warbands and in the part about Word Bearers, it talks about forcing people to attend black masses and other bastardizations of christian practices.
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I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/13 03:35:47
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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I think they are more Romanesque (IE use the names but do not have the culture look)
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/13 22:45:35
Subject: Word Bearers greek/roman?
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Do the Word Bearers have some Greco-Roman symbolism? Sure. So does the Imperium at large. I gather the Emperor was a great admirer of all things Greco-Roman. He was specifically pro-Roman; they had a long-lived and effective Empire, a model he sought to emulate culturally, linguistically and administratively.
Were the word Bearers the MOST Greco-Roman of the Legions? I think (arguably) the Ultramarines hold that title, though any number of Legions had Greco-Roman influences.
Clearly some legions displayed LESS Greco-Roman influence. The Thousand Sons seemed overwhelmingly Pharonic/ Egyptian, the Space Wolves went all Norse and the White Scars went in for an Asiatic Steppe vibe to name a few. But all were subject to the Emperor's prediliction for things Roman, and incorporated neo-Romanesque elements in their iconography, nomenclature and traditions.
My two teef
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