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If a unit of hive guard are destroyed but the tyrant isn't, will my opponent gain a victory point? In this case it was first blood, but given the Tyrant guard aren't a force org slot... I'm confused as to whether they count as a unit?

The Tyrant Guard are still a separate unit. So they are worth something if killed.

Also, Scoring Unit isn't the proper terminology. Scoring unit refers to a unit which can capture objectives, and all units can capture objectives. What you are referring to isn't anything in particular, but again all units are worth stuff if killed.

Let's not confuse terms:

Hive Guard are a Unit, a battlefield entity made up of models (rulebook page 9).

They are a Scoring Unit (i.e. can control objectives) because they are not in the list of things that are not Scoring (page 134 of the rulebook).

Hive Guard are a HQ unit - the fact that they don't take up a slot doesn't change this (more information, pages 119 and 121 of the rulebook).

Now, only the last part am I fuzzy on, as I don't have the Tyranid Codex so I don't know the exact wording - is it still that the Tyrant isn't an Independent Character but has a special rule allowing him to join Hive Guard?

I believe the last answer is yes. He is a separate character, not an IC, that must remain with the Tyrant Guard till they all die.

Cheers guys
sort of, I just conceded a victory point :p lol

Its worded "you may include one tyrant guard brood for each hide tyrant (or swarmlord) in your army. These broods do not take up a force org slot.

 Quanar wrote:
Let's not confuse terms:

Hive Guard are a Unit, a battlefield entity made up of models (rulebook page 9).

They are a Scoring Unit (i.e. can control objectives) because they are not in the list of things that are not Scoring (page 134 of the rulebook).

Hive Guard are a HQ unit - the fact that they don't take up a slot doesn't change this (more information, pages 119 and 121 of the rulebook).

Now, only the last part am I fuzzy on, as I don't have the Tyranid Codex so I don't know the exact wording - is it still that the Tyrant isn't an Independent Character but has a special rule allowing him to join Hive Guard?

LOL, Indeed, lets not confuse terms. Hive Guard are different from Tyrant Guard

Fragile wrote:
LOL, Indeed, lets not confuse terms. Hive Guard are different from Tyrant Guard

Argh, sorry, I was sure I'd checked that!

Yeah my bad on terminology, I'm getting my ear chewed off about orcs. No worries! 3 to 4 by turn two can claw it back