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Hey guys,

What does everyone think of this list? I have seen the swarm and the dash doughnut work well separately, but never seen them together....

Dash
Outrider
Heavy Laser Cannon
Kyle Katarn
Engine Upgrade
Push the Limit

Z-95
Z-95 w/ Proton Rockets
Z-95 w/ Proton Rockets

swarm with the Headhunters and boost around with Dash....

Thoughts?

I'd use it myself for a fun game, but having to stick on the rockets to burn the last six points kind of bugs me. They're only one extra attack dice for a single attack. Perhaps swap them out with an assault missile and munitions failsafe for a huge gain vs some lists, at the cost of a very marginal gain vs most lists. Two hull upgrades would also be an option.

Swapping 2 Z's and the rockets for Chardaan refit A-wings also let's you have 4 ships in the list, and I feel the extra evade die and better dial would be stronger than the rocket Z's. Anything other than that means stripping Dash down some, or dropping the 4th ship.

I feel like those upgrades is the best combo you can get with Dash, but the issue is that you don't quite have enough for 2 Z's + something better or 4 Z's with the points left over. I won a small tournament a few weeks ago with a similar list, but didn't have Engine Upgrade, which let me take 2 Bandits + an X-Wing.

That said I would highly recommend keeping Engine Upgrade if you are running HLC+Outrider. You can get the same ZZX combo for your extra ships running Dash with Outrider + HLC + Leebo + Experimental Interface + Lone Wolf (or VI and a 1pt Initiative bid). Leebo is obviously nowhere near as good as boost, and you can't EI after you use it the 2nd time (otherwise you end up Ion'd and Stressed).

Once it gets released Mangler Cannon is going to be a great alternative, PtL + Mangler + Outrider + Kyle will be amazing and at that point Engine Upgrade isn't as vital (but still a great idea).

Okay thanks for all the feedback! Got a few practice games in today and have decided to go with this list:
2x bandits w cluster missiles
1x bandit w ion missile
Lt blount w ion missile
Farlander with vet instincts and advanced sensors

Blount auto ionized a big or small ship.

Bandits swarm around and farlander gets in close and tanks.

I'm not really sure how Farlander tanks? He just gets shot and dies as fast as a standard B-Wing, he has no tech to help him stay alive. I would highly recommend running with Push the Limit so some other way to Stress himself at will.

Powerguy wrote:
I'm not really sure how Farlander tanks? He just gets shot and dies as fast as a standard B-Wing, he has no tech to help him stay alive. I would highly recommend running with Push the Limit so some other way to Stress himself at will.

Haha, fair enough point about the B-wing...I guess I was comparing him to the Headhunters. I plan to keep him alive by using his advanced sensors before K-turns so he can target lock, then k-turn, then fire and use his stress token to bump the focus dice. Get him in close and put him on someones tail.

His total build is 33 points and I am having a hard time finding a suitable replacement. I was thinking a bare bones Outer Rim Smuggler YT-1300 with Gunner OR a Wild Space Fringer with more Cluster Missiles.

 Falco wrote:

Powerguy wrote:
I'm not really sure how Farlander tanks?

Haha, fair enough point about the B-wing...I guess I was comparing him to the Headhunters.

If you want to increase a B's survivability you can give it the crew slot mod and Lando so it can get evades and focuses galore, although it might work better with Ibitsam (who is also tankier than Farlander given the evade re-roll)

Edit: B-Wing/E2 is a modification not a title.

Low PS pilots plus missiles isn't really that reliable, particularly with flimsy ships like Z95's as you'll either get arc dodged or shot to bits before you can unload