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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 10:08:53
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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70 Pask
150 Punisher + lascannon (Pask)
310 2 Executioners
30 Tank Cmdr
50 Primaris Psyker
145 Vaniquisher + lascannon (Tank Cmdr)
310 2 Executioners
40 Platoon Squad + autocannon
60 Infantry Squad + autocannon
60 Infantry Squad + flamer + autocannon
50 Taurox
30 Ratlings
125 Basilisk
65 Wyvern
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1500
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Thoughts? I'm trying to get a whole load of tanks in, and I think this setup of Troops is a bit more robust than 2 squads of Veterans?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 12:13:03
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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If you really want tanks, Vets in Chimeras is the only way to go. Vets in Vendettas will give you much need anti-air, and anti-tank, and anti-TEQ.
Also, your original list only has a single Troops choice.
The second tank commander won't give the executioners preferred enemy, so they won't be re-rolling Gets Hot rolls.
Sniper rifles generally do diddly squat.
I don't think there's a benefit to having the second tank commander squad as a unit of 3. You're only letting the enemy shooting target them all together, and limiting the number of units it itself can shoot at.
Two executioners might be a bit overkill in Pask's squad.
How about:
Pask + Punisher + Lascannon
Executioner + Lascannon 385 total
Tank commander + Vanquisher + Lascannon
LRBT 325 total
Veterans + Meltagun x3 90
Vendetta 170 260 total
Veterans + Meltagun x3
Vendetta 260 total
Eradicator + Heavy Bolters 140
Wyvern 65
Wyvern 65
1500 on the dot
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/01/19 12:14:30
Death Korps of Krieg Siege Army 1500 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 13:58:55
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thank you for the feedback.
Also, your original list only has a single Troops choice.
Oops, oh no! I was looking forward to giving Orders. 2 Vet squads it is.
The second tank commander won't give the executioners preferred enemy, so they won't be re-rolling Gets Hot rolls.
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I don't think there's a benefit to having the second tank commander squad as a unit of 3. You're only letting the enemy shooting target them all together, and limiting the number of units it itself can shoot at.
The Psyker is in the Tank Commander's unit; my intention is that (1) he takes Divination to reroll failed To Hits which gives re-rolls for Gets Hot, (2) Tank Commander orders Kill on Sight to split up the unit's fire.
Wouldn't these two things work?
Your list is cool. I'll have to rewrite mine then. This list is for one of my kids so the Ratlings are in there because he likes Hobbits (and Tanks) lol. Ratlings IN a tank would be even better...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 14:06:00
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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The Psyker cannot join a vehicle squadron. he can be near the unit, but not in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 14:14:27
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeh, sorry for not being clearer. Nevertheless, his job will be to buff the Tank Commander unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 14:22:42
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Implacable Skitarii
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God In Action wrote:Vets in Vendettas will give you much need anti-air, and anti-tank, and anti- TEQ.
Just an FYI: Vet squads no longer fit in Vendettas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 14:23:38
Subject: Re:[1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The eradicator is the best choice for a tank squad from Heavy Support, and you probably don't want to invest large amounts of points in a tank general.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 14:36:19
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Doh!
In that case, how about
Pask + Punisher + Lascannon
Executioner + Lascannon 385 total
Enginseer x2 80
Tank commander + Vanquisher + Lascannon
LRBT 325 total
Veterans + Camo-cloaks + Sniperx3 85
Veterans + Camo-cloaks + Sniperx3 85 (backfield objective campers)
Vendetta
Eradicator + Heavy Bolters 140
Wyvern 65
Wyvern 65
Aegis + Quad emplacement 100 (Vets behind here)
I saw what the Psyker was doing, It would work, don't know how points efficient it is. You could drop both Enginseers for a Primaris Psyker and those three Ratlings you wanted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/19 19:13:10
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Pask wants multimeltas always. So equipped he has a decent chance of killing a Knight in 1 round of shooting. As others have suggested just get a single mate and give him sponsons that way you save yourself 125 points and only lose 1 PC shot. If 5 plasma cannons can't kill the target you're probably shooting the wrong thing.
I agree with others mech vets is the way forward. Though Vets can't go in Vendettas so I wouldn't do that. Tauroxes are generally more efficient than Chimeras. Though in a Russ heavy list the extra can help by denying S5 and below. However in Maelstrom the better manoeuvrability of the Taurox and the fact people are going to get side shots at you just makes the Taurox win out.
Ratlings are very meh.
A basilisk will generally kill less MEQs than a Wyvern, let alone other targets and the Wyvern is half the cost. All your artillery should be Wyverns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:03:51
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks for all your replies. We have no Knights in our meta.
Damnit, I really wanted to fit some Hobbits in for him  YEH HOBBITSIS!
70 Pask
150 Punisher + lascannon
310 2 Executioners
30 Tank Cmdr
145 Vanquisher + lascannon
185 Executioner + plasma sponsons
50 Primaris Psyker
40 Platoon Squad + autocannon
65 Infantry Squad + flamer + autocannon
65 Infantry Squad + flamer + autocannon
90 Veterans + 3 meltaguns
50 Taurox
65 Wyvern
65 Wyvern
120 Eradicator
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1500
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Still have 6 LRs, but have switched the Basilisk for a Wyvern and switched an Executioner for an Eradicator. Got myself a 2nd troops choice and given them a role. Lots of plasma, melta, pieplates, and a decent amount of bodies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:46:04
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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If you drop the Executioner from Pask's squad and take sponsons on his mate that frees up 125 points for the loss of 1 PC shot. Drop a flamer from the blob and you can afford an Exterminator so you still have 6 Russes but some extra anti light to medium mech firepower. Putting the Wyverns into a squadron which generally helps them as they should remove a unit a turn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:11:57
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks FlingitNow; this was derived from your 1850 10-Russ list anyway
70 Pask
150 Punisher + lascannon
185 Executioner + plasma sponsons
30 Tank Cmdr
145 Vanquisher + lascannon
185 Executioner + plasma sponsons
50 Primaris Psyker
40 Platoon Squad + autocannon
65 Infantry Squad + flamer + autocannon
60 Infantry Squad + autocannon
90 Veterans + 3 meltaguns
50 Taurox
130 2 Wyverns
120 Eradicator
130 Exterminator
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1500
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Oh my goodness, that's an exciting list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 08:53:34
Subject: [1500] - AM - Tanks!
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Cheers. Looks really good now and has all the bases covered.
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