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Hey all, bit of a confusing matter came up last night in a game. I will set the scenario up as best as I remember,then you can admire my beautiful paint illustration.

Turn three, Tau player is deep striking onto the board with crisis suits accompanied by drones. He scatters very close to the table edge. He places one of the crisis suits down and begins to form a circle with drones touching the base of the suit. Then this happened:

http://imgur.com/yzmcfjU

Not accurate to size but essentially the gap shown at the top was enough space for the player to put a drone into.(the drones are reddish) But doing so would cause the mishap. Is he forced to attempt to place the model?




Question one: In a unit with mixed base size, when deepstrking who must be placed first?

Question two: If you cannot complete a full circle is it considered mishap?

 dameanone wrote:
Not accurate to size but essentially the gap shown at the top was enough space for the player to put a drone into.(the drones are reddish) But doing so would cause the mishap. Is he forced to attempt to place the model?

Was there another model to place?

Question one: In a unit with mixed base size, when deepstrking who must be placed first?

Player's choice.

Question two: If you cannot complete a full circle is it considered mishap?

Only if there are models still to be placed. If you leave a gap and there's no models left, you avoided a mishap.

Yeah, if there is a gap in any of the circles you can choose where to put that gap to avoid mishaps.

See where that gap was any model placed there would be off the table. So moving the gap wouldnt have helped him.

I realize that. In this situation it would have been a mishap. But if there were no additional models to place it would have been fine.

If no model actually touches the edge of the board once they're all down, then there's no mishap.

If the numbers are the order of arrival, this is legal:



If 4 and 5 were at the bottom, and 8 at the top, he would mishap. It is also clear that there is no required order (players choice) so the Drones (black) can be placed first (as above) or last, or a mix...

I get exactly what you are saying Talos. Let me pose another question. Lets say #8 was another drone. There would then be a visible gap in his circle. Another drone couldnt fit, and a crisis suit certainly couldnt. Is he allowed to then start another circle? Or is he forced to place the maximum amount of models?

You'd just start another circle, you place as many as will fit, then start another circle. You can't avoid placing a model that will fit to avoid a mishap

Say number #7 hadn't arrived in the diagram above, he could place it touching 6 and 8, or start a new circle

Hello. I was there as well. I think the issue was mainly that when placing the drones, there was a gap at the end of the circle. The question was then did the next circle have to start whilst filling that gap? or could it be started say across from it.... if that makes sense.

If a model can fit in the gap, and that model would cause a mishap, the unit mishapped.

If no model can fit in the gap, starting another circle does not cause a mishap.

 AtariAssasin wrote:
Hello. I was there as well. I think the issue was mainly that when placing the drones, there was a gap at the end of the circle. The question was then did the next circle have to start whilst filling that gap? or could it be started say across from it.... if that makes sense.

The start of the second circle does not have to be where the first circle ended, it could well be on the opposite side.

If the model CAN fit in the gap, then it MUST fit in the gap. If that means it mishaps, then it mishaps.

Hmm, maybe it's semantics but... When makin the circle, you are placing models along the base of the first model you deepstrike in. So let's say you place one suit down, and make a circle of drones flush around the suits base, and after however many there is not enough room to place another flush against the suits base. Do you then place the drone between the first am last ones you placed? Or can you start a new circle.

 AtariAssasin wrote:
Hmm, maybe it's semantics but... When makin the circle, you are placing models along the base of the first model you deepstrike in. So let's say you place one suit down, and make a circle of drones flush around the suits base, and after however many there is not enough room to place another flush against the suits base. Do you then place the drone between the first am last ones you placed? Or can you start a new circle.

As it will not be able to contact the First base, due to the limited space, it is allowed to start a new circle.
Per the rules, this second circle can be anywhere.

If the gap was large enough, i would suggest placing the drone there (IMHO). But this is not compulsory as it is not able to fit touching the first base.