| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
|
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
2015/01/21 21:16:28
Subject: Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
|
I'm considering fielding an OMI in Termie armour with a Psycannon, and the Inquisition Codex has the old Assault/Heavy rules for the Psycannon. I will also have GK Psycannons on other parts of the field (and perhaps even in the same unit.)
Can anyone think of a significant rules difference, when mounted on a Terminator, between Salvo 2/4 and Assault2/Heavy4 that I would need to be careful about keeping clear with my opponents in-game?
|
LVO 2017 - Best GK Player
The Grimdark Future  8500  1500   6000   2000  5000
"[We have] an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay." 1 Peter 1.4
"With the Emperor there is no variation or shadow due to change." James 1.17
“Fear the Emperor; do not associate with those who are given to change.” Proverbs 24.21 |
|
|
 |
|
2015/01/21 21:20:40
Subject: Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Powerful Phoenix Lord
|
When mounted on a Terminator? Since Terminators have Relentless, they will always fire 4 shots up to the maximum range. So I really doubt there would be a problem.
You might still want to go over it with your opponent pre-game though.
|
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 21:40:01
Subject: Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Did the old psycannons have rending?
|
You don't have to be happy when you lose, just don't make winning the condition of your happiness. |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 21:42:58
Subject: Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
The Hive Mind
|
Yes.
|
My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals.
|
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 22:25:50
Subject: Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Powerful Phoenix Lord
|
If the only difference is Assault 2/Heavy 4, and Salvo 2/4 (and I know that the rules state that Relentless models always use the Heavy profile), then it does not matter.
|
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 22:58:50
Subject: Re:Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
|
Technically a relentless model with an old psycannon could use the assault profile if he wanted to, but that would almost never be beneficial.
A relentless model with the Salvo version doesn't have a choice since the Salvo rules say if the model is stationary you get 4 shots at max range.
|
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 23:01:12
Subject: Re:Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Powerful Phoenix Lord
|
 Grey Templar wrote:Technically a relentless model with an old psycannon could use the assault profile if he wanted to, but that would almost never be beneficial.
A relentless model with the Salvo version doesn't have a choice since the Salvo rules say if the model is stationary you get 4 shots at max range.
Sorry you are correct. A relentless model can choose, however, a model in terminator armour always uses the Heavy profile.
|
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 23:02:02
Subject: Re:Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
|
 Happyjew wrote: Grey Templar wrote:Technically a relentless model with an old psycannon could use the assault profile if he wanted to, but that would almost never be beneficial.
A relentless model with the Salvo version doesn't have a choice since the Salvo rules say if the model is stationary you get 4 shots at max range.
Sorry you are correct. A relentless model can choose, however, a model in terminator armour always uses the Heavy profile.
Why is that?
Is there a specific call out in the Inquisition codex?
|
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 23:09:02
Subject: Re:Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Powerful Phoenix Lord
|
Grey Templar wrote: Happyjew wrote: Grey Templar wrote:Technically a relentless model with an old psycannon could use the assault profile if he wanted to, but that would almost never be beneficial.
A relentless model with the Salvo version doesn't have a choice since the Salvo rules say if the model is stationary you get 4 shots at max range.
Sorry you are correct. A relentless model can choose, however, a model in terminator armour always uses the Heavy profile.
Why is that?
Is there a specific call out in the Inquisition codex?
Yep, from the Inquisition codex:
A psycannon can either be fired as a Heavy weapon or an Assault weapon. Models in Terminator armour always use the Heavy option
|
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 23:10:27
Subject: Re:Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
|
Weird. Seems like a pointless line.
|
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
|
|
|
|
2015/01/21 23:16:25
Subject: Old Psycannon and New Psycannon
|
|
Legendary Master of the Chapter
|
Its practically the same but technically when shooting you kinda need to keep them separately because they have different profiles.
Not that it really maters between friends 
|
 Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
