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Hello everyone!

What do you think about this list, and witch one would you prefer?

Cypher infilitrate with Oblits, and Chosen also infilitrate (my battlegroup accept IC to bring units with them in infilitrate).
Cypher can join Spawns (list1) or bikes (list2) in turn 2. I like the idea with bikes jink and Cypher giving them shrouded.


List1: CSM/daemons 1838p:
Lord: Bike, MoN, LgC, PF, Daemonheart, Slaughter Horn, Sigil
Cult x 10
Cult x 10
Mauler:
Mauler:
Spawn x 5: MoN
Oblits x 3: MoN

Daemons:
Herald of Khorn: jugger, GR x 1, LR x 1, Exalted LoW
Nurglings x 3:
Hounds x 20:

Formation:
Cypher
Chosen x 5: Plasma gun x 4

List2: Pure CSM 1855p:
Lord: Bike, MoS, LgC, PF, Daemonheart, Slaughter Horn, Sigil
Cult x 10
Cult x 10
Mauler:
Mauler:
Spawn x 4: MoN
Spawn x 3: MoN
Bikes x 10: MoS, Excess, Lgc, PF, Melta x 2
Oblits x 3: MoN

Formation:
Cypher
Chosen x 5: Plasma gun x 4
Chosen x 5: Plasma gun x 4

Thank you!

After two games with each list:
- I am leaning towards nurgel Lord and bikes. The reason is the synergy between marks, so that the Lord can join spawns if necessary.
- Hounds scout, makes them prio nr. 1. Leaning towards haunds vs bikes atm, but I feel going with allies uses alot of points. I am already using 400 points in the HQ slot.

Two groups of Chosen with plasma is great, but It tend to be the first targets that gets killed aswell. I am going to try one group instead.
Two groups might synergy better with haunds.

The current tweek is:
- Drop one group of cultist and chosen, and add plague marines as the second troops choice with:
2xplasma, combiplasma and rhino.

thx!

All looks sound. I can certainly see the appeal of a full nurgle rush. It would be nice to max out the spawn units.

Not sure the oblits are worth it as a unit of 3. Its a lot of points. And theres a fair amount of risk in using them.

I am running 2 units with 4 spawns atm, but I hear you. I would like to max them out too. Dont know what to drop.

The risk with oblits, is it that big? Cypher infilitrate with them into a ruin, usally floor lvl2.

Its very expencive running oblits x 3 + Cypher, thats for sure. What would you recommend, 2 x 2 oblits maybe?

The reason I am running Cypher with them, is that I want everything to be able to hit full strength turn 2.

Ah I didn't realize you were infiltratey with cypher.that sounds excellent.

Thanks for the reply Captyn_Bob.

I added melta bombs on both the Chaos Lord and Bike Champion, I dont want to get locked up by walkers in CC.
I will keep on trying different stuff with the 300points I put into Chosen. Maybe I will try a Daemon Prince, another Lord or hellbrutes.

Had a game yesterday, and this is what it looks like atm:
Lord: Bike, MoN, LgC, PF, Daemonheart, Slaughter Horn, Sigil, melta bombs
Cult x 10
Cult x 10
Mauler:
Mauler:
Spawn x 4: MoN
Spawn x 4: MoN
Bikes x 9: MoN, Lgc, PF, Melta x 2, melta bombs
Oblits x 3: MoN

Formation:
Cypher
Chosen x 5: Plasma gun x 4
Chosen x 5: Plasma gun x 4

Could probably manage without the meltabomb on the lord.

We need some math, whats better 4*S8 or 1*S8 armourbane.

Certainly he's fine on the charge.

Blight grenades are handy tho.

Jeah, I really dont know whats best between the two M.bombs vs PF).

Blight grenades would give me defencive grenades and assault grenades, but I already have assault grenades as default, dont I?

I like to keep the list to its nurgle theme, so I would love replacing Cypher with Typhus. I guess I am not the only one, loving the nurgle theme.
This would mean dropping the Chosen, and adding some terminators or something. Im going to try this out eventually.