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Heh, I think Dakka  ate my thread I added a few days ago. Anyhoo.

In Warriors of Ultramar, a huge tank is described, a Capitol Imperialis, commanded by a IG officer. And by huge I mean 100m high, tracks as wide as roads, a barrel of the main gun able to contain four Lemans. Which means it dwarfs a warlord titan. I've heard about it somewhere before but imagined it to be more of a humanoid titan. Were can I find any more fluff about this monster? Black library? Old white dwarf? Anything in epic (stats? If there are rules for warhounds etc in WH40k...)?

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hopfully it will be released in epic form in the next few years

I'm certain you can still by the model from GW MO, if your persistent about it. That's how I got my RT SM's before they were reintroduced in the collector's guides.

The Capitol Imperialis is from earlier editions of Epic/Titan Legions. The CI was originally a huge Space Marine Transport, but it evolved into a mega-tank/command vehicle for the Imperial Guard. There are a number of the "Mega Vehicle/Tanks" in old epic that are essentially spaceship weapons that have been installed in huge vehicles designed to move and fire them. If you put "Capitol Imperialis" in Google, you'll come up with most of the fluff on them. The model itself has been OOP for years, though you can still find it if you look hard enough and are willing to pay the going price.

As an aside, I've thought for years that it would be cool to build a game board that was a Capitol Imperialis or other Mega-tank; the game would be played on the outside of it, over it and along it. When you are talking about something that is about 3 feet tall, 2 feet wide and 4 feet long when in 40K scale, that's significant. The CI is 4 to 6 times the size of a Baneblade. A Leviathan tank is 3 Leman Russ' wide and 5 LR's long. In my mind it'd make an excellent terrain feature and a charaterful table; impossible to use it as an actual model (can you imagine how many points it'd have to be, or what the stat line of it's Volcano Cannon would be?), but cool as terrain.

Thanks for the info teufelskerl. Interesting game board idea, maybe a summer project? Found an semi-old thread at warseer where Puffin Magician had made his own VDR CI:

"Capitol Imperialis - 1950pts
Bs3, 14/13/13, 8sp, 6vs, Transport×300, Surveyor, Superheavy Transport, Bastion*, Supreme Cmdr*.
Behemoth Cannon, 8 Plasma Cannon, 8 Twinlinked Heavy Bolter
Behemoth Cannon: 12"-72" s8 ap3 Ord4
Superheavy Transport: The Capitol Imperialis' interior is designed to carry three companies, be it 300 infantry, 30 Leman Russ/Chimera hulls, or 9 Superheavy Tank hulls.
Bastion: If transporting infantry, they may fire from the onboard bastions. Up to 50 lasgun shots on each side of the Capitol Imperialis may target 2 seperate units [one for the left basions and one for the right] different from the CI. Normal shooting restrictions, like LoS and firing into assaults, apply.
Supreme Commander: Units within 12" of the Capitol Imperialis may use Ld10 for any Leadership-based tests required to make."

S'pose it's not over the top. But, even in a mega battle, probably... quite unbalancing .

 

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isn't Capitol Imperialis just another name for the Leviathan?

Don't think so - the Leviathan is just a very large ground transport vehicle, whereas the Capitol Imperialis is a mobile command post THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE a very large ground transport vehicle.

Hi. The Capitol Imperialis and Leviathan are different beasts, although there were rumours that the latest version of Epic would combine them to make the CI a variant (or the other way around... I cant quite remember).

 

Anyway, in Epic (thanks to Tuffskulls web site) - Capitol Imperialis:

http://www.mercenarybrush.com/galleries.php?page=37&view=3&viewimage=366

Leviathan:

http://www.mercenarybrush.com/galleries.php?page=37&view=5&viewimage=1605

 

I am afraid that you cant get the CI model. It was very much discontinued a very long time ago.

The CI was introduced with first edition Epic (Space Marine) as an Imperial Marine transport vehicle. The Leviathan was introduced in a later version of the game for the Imperial Guard. The role changed later when the CI then became an IG command vehicle, since it didnt fit the Marine doctine.

 

Posted By SWOne on 12/14/2005 8:30 AM
Don't think so - the Leviathan is just a very large ground transport vehicle, whereas the Capitol Imperialis is a mobile command post THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE a very large ground transport vehicle.

Actually its the other way around. The Leviathan is a large bunker on tracks with enough transport capacity for a Commander and a few squads of retinue. It also has lots of heavy artillery.

A Capitol Imperialis is a huge tower block on tracks. With only few guns, which are not very potent. But it has a HUGE transport capacity. Though it has the downsides as a transport that it is often quicker to walk and you have all your eggs in one basket, though its an adamantium basket, with enough void shields for a heavy titan.
What the Capitol Imperialis also has are battlements on the top. With enough room for several squads to deploy and fight.

P.S. I dont know why, but posts vanish when I edit them. And I didnt press Delete.

Yeah, this was definitely first seen on the fields of epic 40K, circa Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine. I was featured in 'Codex Titanicus', the first rulebook from GW with Ork, Eldar, and additional marine rules. It's pictured as a massive, rectangular looking... bastion on treads I guess. It's primary role was heavy transport and infantry platform.

In game terms, it held 8 stands of marines (I think), which was about 40 men. The pictures in the codex made it seem much, much, MUCH bigger though. They were basically supposed to be Titan sized, complete with heavy weapons and I think at least two power/force fields. Pretty nasty.

I think the idea of a skirmish fought on or inside one of these is an awesome one... they are the AT-AT's of the WH40K world, and I'd love to see someone go crazy modeling one.

It was later changed to have a capacity of two companies. In the Epic version with unit cards.

In the new Dan Abnett Book "His Last Command" there are four Leviathans outlined in the book. They are command/HQ staging points pretty much and not used for transporting troops tactically...but strategically where needed.

The Capital Imperialis has, to my knowlegdge, never appeared in any Black Library texts as of yet. It kind of got the old ax as Epic editions changed. It was pretty god-awful useless even when it was available.

Here's the old catalog photos:

http://zachary.org/games/gw/epic7.jpg