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Made in gb
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I was thinking of generating some fan made rules for the slicing orbs of xanderos.. I know this about them: they are an Eldar Aspect Warrior of the Craftworld Xanderos and they only come from one "shrine" on there. I was thinking of kitbashing them from spares and making them have something like this for rules:

Elites 0-1
Slicing Orbs of Xanderos: 110 pts (5 models)
[Ws] [Bs] [S] [T] [I] [A] [Ld] [Sv]
4 - -- - 4 -- 3 -- 3 - 5 - 1* - 9 - 4+

Equipment:
shuriken pistol
slicing orb
Aspect Armour

Extra models can be added for 22pts each up to a maximum of 10

Special Rules:
Anti Grav Assault! Models with the Anti Grav Assault special rule (as long as all models in the unit have the special rule) may assault directly from any anti grav transport even if it is not opened topped. You may only treat the vehicle as open topped assault for the purpose of the models with the Anti Grav Assault special rule disembarking only. They embark as normal

Slicing Orb: the slicing orb is an anti grav monofilament weapon that is guided to the target only by the fearsomly trained aspect warriors of the shrine such is the speed of these weapons that they grant an extra attack in melee (*) on top of the close combat weapon modifier. Hung on chains the Orbs are discs that flail at high speed in close combat. They weapon has the following profile:

Str (user+1) ... AP 2 ... Attacks (user +1)

Exarch
[Ws] [Bs] [S] [T] [I] [A] [Ld] [Sv]
5 - - - 5 - - 3 -- 3 -6 - 2*- 10 - 3+

One Slicing Orb Warrior may be upgraded to an Exarch for 15pts. The exarch may upgrade his shuriken pistol for a fusion pistol 10 pts. Crushing blow 10pts. Disarm 10pts.

Slicing Orbs may take a Wave Serpent Transport

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Made in gb
Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

I suppose they work, but they are just an almost carbon copy of Incubi, except they are Ws 4 but can assault from Transports. I don't know, they just seem a little simple.

When i imagined the Slicing Orbs (I've made a homebrew version previously) to be something a bit more unique. I imagined them as battle telekines, a brotherhood of Psykers (level 1 or 2 with Exarch) in telepathy and their weapons were monofiliment bladed balls of death that they would telekinetically float around to blender people. Maybe work from that sort of angle rather then Eldar Incubi.

 
   
Made in gb
Dakka Veteran





I've actually never seen the rules for incubi.. i've never even seen the models in person... what I was going for was a way of taking a new close combat aspect that isn't harlequins.. isn't scorpions isn't banshees.. but isn't simply OP.. (incidentally how do they compare with points cost with incubi.. ) also the slicing orb I was thinking of that flail weapon like a "3 sectional staff" in chinese martial arts with a ball like a mace on each end
   
Made in gb
Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

Incubi cost 20pts each, the same stat-line save for Ws 5, A 2 and a 3+ Sv. Dark Eldar have all open topped transports so getting them into combat isn't a problem, and there weapon is +1 Str AP 2 like yours. All in all, a very similar model, but quite a lot better due to Power From Pain, high Ws and Sv. So, if anything, you have over priced your models. Which, when making homebrews, is ALWAYS a good sign.

Ok, you wan't to make a usable Eldar combat unit. Think of what niches there are to be filled. MEQ = Banshees (as much as Shees can do anything...), GEQ = Scorpions and Harlequins. TEQ isn't really filled, but in an army of blade storming Guardians, is it really a problem?

I find a problem Eldar have are high Strength attacks for taking on high toughness foes. What about if the staff gave +2 Str Ap 4 (Standard Power Flail rules) with 6's to wound being AP 2 (Standard Monofiliment rules, ergo, monofiliment flail). It would be an entire unit of high strength high Initiative models, a bit like Wraiths. I'd also bump the armour save to a 3+ for consistency. Thoughts?

 
   
Made in gb
Dakka Veteran





Good idea ... "going high AP" was what I went for.. going "high str" was also a way to go but I refrained initially because I feel a reason high str was not a massive thing for me (it is a niche admittedly) was that things like WraithKnights (and Scorpion Exarchs) do exist.. i.e. aspect warriors may well lack high str (Scorpion Exarchs aside) but *eldar*per*se* do not.

With that slight digression aside I can definately see having some sort of a "rending power flail" does have precident.. and is easier to points cost.. and I like the fact they can assault from wave serps or falcons, without everything suddenly falling apart via having some sort of allies terror (land raiders ...?) It gives them a niche.. I think they need to have 1 attack each and 3+ does make them better without being too much better.. if they are getting the rending powerflail statline and points need to go down to (say, 18)

Mind you I could just model them up and use incubi rules as some sort of compromise (!) it's hard to get upset if they are in another army list!

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Made in gb
Angered Reaver Arena Champion




Connah's Quay, North Wales

Incubi are simply great, they are the Aspect Warriors Eldar wish they had. And since they are battle brothers, it would be easy to fit them into your Eldar list. I like to run mine in a unit of 3 + the Klaivex in a Venom. Doesn't sound much?

That Klaivex is one of the most powerful Sargent in the game and he eats an Exarch for Breakfast. Ws 6 A 3 AP 2 with Rampage base. Due to power from pain, i have had a single Klaivex (his buddies died) charge a 6 Man tac squad late game. Due to power from pain he had 8 (3+Rage+D3 Rampage) attacks at Strength 5, he slaughtered 5 of them on the charge.

So yeah, using Incubi would seem to work for the purpose you'd want. Maybe model them based off of the old Incubi models i'm sure you could get off Ebay? Replace the tip with those Spiked Ball chains and it they look suitably badass.

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