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Ok, guys, I don't have much time left before the Las Vegas Open GT (February 19th). I need to finalize what I am going to bring there!

Mods, please do not move this thread as it will be where I will put my battle reports.

The Las Vegas Open GT 2015 in my opinion may possibly be the most competitive tournament in the United States currently (as far as the Singles competition is concerned). There's going to be so many really, really good players coming to the tournament and I am talking about GT-winners and other successful tournament players. Even my first round opponent will be a legend in the 40K tournament scene. And it won't get any easier from there. Moreover, while I aim to have a lot of fun, this year, I've set my ambitions to be very high. I aim to make it to Day #3, which would be the Top 16 out of a field of about 280 players. Last year, I barely missed Day #3, going 4-0 before finally losing in Round #5 (the last round before Day #3) to the guy who eventually took 2nd at the tournament. So with such lofty ambitions, I need to take a seriously competitive army.

Here are a few lists that I am currently considering:


1. 1850 NEWCRONS




2. 1850 OLDCRONS - AV13 NECRONS




3. 1850 PENTYRANT TYRANIDS




4. 1850 TYRANIDS




5. 1850 THE FLUFF-KILLER




6. 1850 CENTURIONSTAR




7. 1850 ADAMANTINE LANCE




8. 1850 DAEMONS




So let me know what you would like to see me bring. And if you have suggestions and/or changes to my lists, feel free to post it here or to PM me. The lists themselves are not set in stone. If I like any of the suggestions here, I might make the changes to my list (assuming I have the appropriate models).


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1850 THE FLUFF-KILLER VS OLDCRONS


1850 DECURION NEWCRONS VS BIKER MARINES

Really like your Skytyrant list, though I also wouldn't mind seeing the Seekerstar or the Newcrons.

I voted adlance, because I want an easy matchup in the finals .

I voted fluff killer, cause i like the name. I wouldn't say old crones as thats not moving forward and being stuck in the past.

I voted for Pentyrants because I don't go to tournaments but I read your battle report with this list and it was brutal even when you were playing nicely.

You'd still keep the MSS on the oldcron list J?

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
You'd still keep the MSS on the oldcron list J?

Yes, it would be the old MSS rules using the old codex 1 last time.

I really like Oldcrons AV13. Bargelords are rock solid, good flyer support and ABs still do a good job. Manouverable army overall, decent firepower, very resilient/annoying Bargelords.

thanatos67 wrote:
I voted adlance, because I want an easy matchup in the finals .

Just out of curiosity, what is the Adamantium Lance an "easy matchup" against? I'm guessing Flyrant-heavy Nids?

 jy2 wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
You'd still keep the MSS on the oldcron list J?

Yes, it would be the old MSS rules using the old codex 1 last time.

Would LVO allow that with the new dex out? ALways wondered how tournaments handle releases that are close to their tournament date

Lord of Nonsensical Crap wrote:

thanatos67 wrote:
I voted adlance, because I want an easy matchup in the finals .

Just out of curiosity, what is the Adamantium Lance an "easy matchup" against? I'm guessing Flyrant-heavy Nids?

That, deamons can just summon and tie them up with crap units forever, tau msu with lots of melta suits, or just melta-heavy pod marines. There's a few other ways to pick that style army apart but mostly it comes down to overtaxing the knights with credible threats from multiple angles. JY2's flyrant/knight list does throw the AA wrinkle in which is really needed, but sacrifices summoning capability with only 6 models that can actually grab objectives.

I would like to see non pentatyrant Nidz .

If you want wraiths then this newcron list might be worth considering:

Overlord, ccb, warscythe, phylactery, 2+/4++

10 warriors
10 warriors
Ghost ark
Ghost ark

6 wraiths, 6 whip coils
6 wraiths, 6 whip coils
6 wraiths, 6 whip coils

Canoptek harvest formation:

Canoptek spyder
3 scarabs
6 wraiths, 6 whip coils

Minimanj wrote:
If you want wraiths then this newcron list might be worth considering:

Overlord, ccb, warscythe, phylactery, 2+/4++

10 warriors
10 warriors
Ghost ark
Ghost ark

6 wraiths, 6 whip coils
6 wraiths, 6 whip coils
6 wraiths, 6 whip coils

Canoptek harvest formation:

Canoptek spyder
3 scarabs
6 wraiths, 6 whip coils

I was under the impression that you had to take the Decurion or whatever to get the Canoptek harvest. So you would need 5 immortals and at least a min sized tomb blade squad fit in there somewhere.

Also mabey just me but I am having a hard time finding the 2+ armour save for Overlords and Destroyer Lords. (Dont have book on me atm)

My vote is for Fluff Killer. Sure its spam but at least its different spam.

I thought so as well at first, but the Decurion detachment is just all of the formations stuck into one detachment with some extra bits.

So canoptek harvest is just like any other formation, e.g. skyblight, so you can take it with a necron CAD. And the 2+ comes from the nightmare shroud relic, it basically is a 2+ armour save and once per game all enemy units within 6" must take a morale check something like that.

I would like to see my list used, but fluff killer is a good list and different

Voted Pentyrant, mostly because I didn't like the solo Mawloc in the SkyBlight list. If you go with the latter, take SkyBlight over SkyTyrant: the 2 Harpies and Crone should make up for the fifth Flyrant IMO, and if you're going flyer spam go all the way.

I voted Newcrons, as i think you ought to test them out.

I have somes stuff in mind I'll pm a rudimentary list of what i think should be playable.

Well I voted non 5 Tyrant...I agree that 5 Tyrants is stupid strong, but I think that victory is possible with less extreme builds, and you have stated that you don't much want to run Pentyrant. I think that a Leviathan with SkyTyrant, or SkyBlight is plenty strong enough to make the top 5, and if the dice gawds are willing, win it all.

Voted Newcrons too, I'd love to see you flesh out the new book and hear your thoughts behind a new interesting list

Fluffkiller. I saw your musings in the batrep with the Newcrons, and think you ought to push in that direction right away. Don't give people a moment's rest; advance that meta.

Bugger to all the super-comp lists, give yourself more of a challenge!! I voted for the Knights list, although I would rather see them paired with GK, Marines or Guard before Eldar!

I've never seen you play with Guard, do you have any?

Necro nids looks like a sick army list! as in I would want to vomit seeing it across the table!!

looks very strong I think you should go with that.

I say bring the pentyrant so I can show everyone that it's really not good at all.

I voted penta tyrant. Firstly I seem to recall you saying you really wanted to take this tournament seriously. If so I think you should let the new crons settle before bringing them to a tournament.

Playing the meta however it might not be the best idea to bring penta tyrant. You already showed that old crons are a really hard match up for it, and I would not be surprised to a see people breaking out there old crons because it is their last chance.

I don't think penta tyrant is as amazing as you make it out to be, but I would love to see you take it to a tournament and prove me wrong.

jy2 should bring whatever he thinks is his most competitive list. LVO is the real deal.

I voted PenTyrant because...why not?

yermom wrote:
I say bring the pentyrant so I can show everyone that it's really not good at all.

Maybe if they all charge the drone star...no wait we've seen what happens, its pretty terrible.

Voted NecroNids, mainly because its the most interesting and I would love to see how it performs. It might also catch some people off guard.

Don't go with Pentyrant, you already stated elsewhere that you wouldn't take it to LVO and it would be a shame to go back on your word

to me your wraiths is good with a destoryer cuilt or 2 and run some knights ooooooooooooooooooor run the flying bug circus with them and have dlords with destoyers cuilt and wraiths wreck the land

I voted Oldcrons, since they seem the most competitive to me.

Honestly Jy2, I'd take what you think is the most fun/most competitive.

However, if I know you at all, I'd think you want a strong final showing with your Oldcrons - to show the world that crons are damn good. So I suspect you have a secret, deep yearning to play your oldcrons and crush face with them one....last....time....