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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/11 07:20:11
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Is it right that if I put Mega Armored Big Mek in a squad of Flash Gitz and then put them all in BW then they can move up to 12" and still fire at full BS due to Relentless special rule provided by Mega Armored Big Mek?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/11 07:24:59
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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No. Moving at cruising speed just makes the passenger snap fire always. Slow and Purposeful only applies to certain weapon types, it doesn't just automatically make them count as stationary (which is why it doesn't let you use git finder)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/11 07:38:13
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Chaos Space Marine dedicated to Slaanesh
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Slow and Purposeful states that the unit counts as stationary, moving at combat speed (6") states that the unit counts as having moved. I would say that you can have a Mega Armoured Big Mek in a BW with flash gits and fire at full BS if you move 6" or less. For 12" you don't fire snap shots because you count as having moved, you fire snap shots because cruising speed causes you to always fire snap shots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/11 11:54:01
Subject: Re:MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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It's Slow and Purposeful, not Relentless.
Not that it matters much as Relentless and Slow and Purposeful do exactly NOTHING when firing an Assault weapon, which is what Flashgitz have.
Also Gitfindas and Slow and Purposeful / Relentless don't work together. You count as Stationary for the purpose of shooting (but not assault weapons) only, not for the purpose of wargear.
At Combat Speed (6") the unit counts as moving. Slow and Purposefull does nothing, as they're using Assault Weapons. Even if they weren't, it still wouldn't help, as SAP does nothing for Wargear.
At Cruising Speed (12") the unit is snap shooting anyway, even if they counted as stationary (which they wouldn't, for reasons above).
So NO!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/11 19:29:13
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm going to clarify the wording here, as it can be manupulated with people paraphrasing.
Slow & Purposeful doesn't make you count as stationary, it simply allows you to fire a weapon as if you were stationary, which is a different thing.
so mega armour isn't a particularly helpful thing for flashgitz, except for buffing their CC and survivability, which is still good. too many people underestimate gitz in combat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/11 20:34:48
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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MA plus lootas is pure gold though. Just sayin'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/12 13:48:33
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Krazed Killa Kan
Homestead, FL
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10 lootas + MA big mek with a KFF in a BW mounted with a Kill Kannon and a Lobbba :-P that would be 420 points for basically what amounts to two Heavy Support choices. With that said would the lootas be shooting Snapshots if the Wagon moved 12 or would they still get the bonus from the MA?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/12 14:24:23
Subject: MA Big Mek, Flash Gitz and Battlewagon
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Ghazkuul wrote:10 lootas + MA big mek with a KFF in a BW mounted with a Kill Kannon and a Lobbba :-P that would be 420 points for basically what amounts to two Heavy Support choices. With that said would the lootas be shooting Snapshots if the Wagon moved 12 or would they still get the bonus from the MA?
Lootas have Heavy weapons, so if they move at all they will be Snap Shooting.
Combat Speed they count as moving. The Mega Mek will help here, so they can fire while counting as not moving (full BS).
Cruising speed, all passengers snap shoot. The Mek won't help here, it's got nothing to do with being stationary or not. If it moves 12" they Snap Shoot, no getting around it.
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