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So heading to a event with no prior knowledge of what to expect from other players, which to me seems fun.

Rules are 90 points mixed faction /100 points ship pure (dual faction ships ok to mix those factions) 60 points max ship.....can have 2 resources as long as both toal 10 or less

TO states 5 missions only one will be 1 stright up fight. With that in mind I assume I'll need crew, could be an away mission of some sort. Not sure if I should have a secodary weapon could be some type of torpedoe run mission. I really don't know. In ship based pick up objectives I assume there will still be alot of fighting.

Klingons 100

Vor'cha
Martok skill 8
Drex

Vor'Cha
Worf
Klingon Fleet Captian
Na'Garen

K'tinga (tech slot)
Klingon captian
Projected Stasis Field

If it were not for the 4 unknown missions I'd just run 3 lean Vor'chas but I think crew might be useful, as for the secondary weapon I could drop the fleet captian for a Vor'cha bonus torpedoe since I have na'garen/derx.

Damn Borg will be a problem at 60 points otherwise i'd drop the PSF.

That's pretty lean and mean. I would tend to hedge and take the secondary myself.

Well, I'd build a fleet thusly:

1 ship that is a Heavy Hitter (like 5+ attack dice)
1 Medium Ship with Specials, like steal tech, can cloak, etc. etc.
1 small/medium ship that was FAST. Add possibly Picard Maneuver and Admiral Forest or some other movement buff to it.

I'd scatter some crew amongst all the ships.

I'd ask the TO if you could use two Attack Die resources and use both every time you shot at someone...

If you want to play the scenarios:

1. Straight up combat? Big ship leads the way, with the medium ship screwing up the opponent's attack plan, and the little ship harassing the flanks.

2. Go get 'X' and return: Small ship darts in, grabs and runs. Big/Medium ship runs interference.

3. Land on planet/station/whatever and duke it out while ships fight in space: Usually, these scenarios devolve into a "anything that happens on the planet has no bearing to what happens in space" or "what happens on the planet wins the game no matter what happens in space". Check the victory conditions carefully. Assume that you are going to have to fight in space with captain skill 1 and maybe no crew. So take crew that help out or "step up" when your captain is dead like the Resource First Officer, or the crewman in the Alpha Hunter ship that gives you a captain skill 4 that is untouchable.

4. Mines- it might be worth planning on taking some mines (cloaked would be the best option) or something to deal with mines, as a scenario usually has you go to some spot, which is easy enough for you or your opponent to mine.

All the above should grab you extra fleet points by playing and winning the scenario. Battle Points? Well, that will depend on how the scenario is written. Most scenario's I have seen have a victory condition stated as "...last surviving ship and opponent has no ships, you win", in which case, build for max combat and kill the enemy fleet to win.

I'd just like to offer kudos to whomever is organizing that event. Really nice to hear about a tourney that isn't a WK OP. We need many many more of them.

Well, we just played 4 games last night against the Borg.We figured out of 16 registered players; so far, half will be Borg. I was borg for 2 games and a friend was Borg for 2. Wow 60 points opens up alot of BS for Borg. Not sure what to do know. My fleet was able to neturalize a one borg with ease but since ASS. tubes/ Crosis took Drex and Na'garen, I was left with poor damage dealing potential. With one Borg vessel at 60 its almost back to the start of STAW. Pretty much both games went the same way even with trying a flank deployment. K'T'inga Down first combat and one sphere down. After that Borg out manuvered me every turn hammering the Vor'chas, eventually I'd either have to not shoot and sensor echo or turn around. We both lost all games to Borg, at 60 points not sure, I think I'll eat crow here and admit they are not skewed and agree they are broken, at least at 60 points or more. I absolutily will never play Borg, I'd feel dirty just playing them.


May have to consider a new list........


Tamwulf, I wish I knew what to expect from the other 4 scenarios. I'd like to keep my force faction pure for 100 points and 100 points is not alot to work with for 3 ships. 2 resources I'm 100% postive they have to be different. Counter Attack die is awesome. I have used mines on very rare occasion, but I'm not hot about mines. Also, as we talked about before Rom's have problems against Borg.


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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
I'd just like to offer kudos to whomever is organizing that event. Really nice to hear about a tourney that isn't a WK OP. We need many many more of them.

You'll be pleased to hear that we are converting BFG champaign rules to do a champaign, if you have never played BFG it has rules for building new ships, repairing ships (even reasons for limping a ship off the board rather than risk destruction), Ships leaderships (captian skill) .

we'll start out with base generic ships. As crews/captians gain experience (if they are not destroyed) you can change the to named vessels add captians and crews. There is even rules for special technology granted to you by high command...add resources, tech or special weapon to a ship.

some bugs to work out yet


no one is allowed to play Borg, we plan on using them in a mega battle at one point.

I'm still deciding what to bring for the Adepticon tourney too

But I'm with you, playing Borg isn't as much fun as winning with any other faction I have.

 crazyK wrote:
I'm still deciding what to bring for the Adepticon tourney too

But I'm with you, playing Borg isn't as much fun as winning with any other faction I have.

crazyK if you don't bring Borg and my firend doen't that means 3 fleet so far non-borg....Humm may be a good tourney if more players feel this way.

I was leery when you said 60 points per ship. My biggest problem with that is it allows the named sphere to take 2 borg hull armours OR hull armour and a good captain. I much prefer the 50 point restriction. It makes the borg choose between a spending points on offense or defense, but not both.


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Also this is still possible with 60 points

44 Tac Cube
05 Wayoun
11 Varel

60 Total

Even with the FAQ, all this thing needs to do is cancel 1 attack a turn and it can soak up the rest.

But for this tournament it's ship pure 100 and 60 point cap. So no Weyoun+Varel.

Link to updates for the tourney. It sounds like missions will be posted before.

http://staw-adepticon.blogspot.com/

 crazyK wrote:
But for this tournament it's ship pure 100 and 60 point cap. So no Weyoun+Varel.

Link to updates for the tourney. It sounds like missions will be posted before.

http://staw-adepticon.blogspot.com/

Ah, well that's good. A tac cube with hull armour and the skill 9 queen is nasty.

Yeah, it's really hard to make suggestions about what to take in a fleet without knowing the scenarios.

It will all come down to the scenarios of course. And if there is a victory condition of "last ship standing wins", then yeah, it'll be Borg, Borg, Borg. They will pretty much just ignore the scenario and kill your ships. /shrug.

Please post the campaign when you get a chance! In my meta, we've played several one-off multiplayer games. Let's see...



We had 14 (or maybe 12? Can't remember right off hand...) players with 200 points in each fleet on two tables with a Worm Hole connecting them. Table 2, which I forgot to take a picture of, had two DS-9's on it (which was hilarious to watch them play until Capt. Kirk on the Excelsior activated his Self-Destruct Sequence right between the two stations... Oh, and each player got two fighter resources to play with as well (we had more than a case full of fighters to hand out thanks to a Wizkids screw up, so everyone got a Dom and Fed Fighter resource).

The game is so much more fun with these home brewed little scenarios and campaigns. To me, that's the real strength of Star Trek Attack Wing.

CrazyK he changed it at some point because it was 90 points mixed, 100 ship pure. I also like the ship pure venue. Glad you pointed that out. As for scenirios I saw he stated that but it has been awhile.

Tam when we finalize the rules I'll post them

Jealous of the Ferengi fleet in that pic. So wish Krayton's weren't super expensive. Hopefully the Kreechta is just as good.