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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





Hey everyone I just recently purchased a large amount of ravenwing bikers and vehicles also including sammael. I was wondering what you guys think should I go full biker list or go mixed bikers/flyers/speeders
The list of models I have are

Samael
2 nephalim jetfights TL LC/HB
1 Darkshroud
1 land speeder vengeance
20 ravenwing bikers
9 black Knights
1 command squad apoth/Champion/banner bearer
1 attack bike
1 land speeder typhoon

It's a pretty decent list of models I think and half of it isn't even built yet just the flyers and one full attack squadron is built but should I add more large vehicles or maybe just keep it simple with many bikers?
i look forward to any input and thank everyone for taking the time! (Also I'm open to buying any new models suggested)

4500 3rd battle company
Deathwing: 3500
Ravenwing (in progress)
   
Made in ca
Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot




Calgary

Would need more information as to what you like running and what the local meta is like.

Something I'd run:

Sam on Jetbike
Command Squad w/ Banner (Devestation or Ravenwing)
4-5 full squads of bikes (Plasma/Melta/flamer)
3 Landspeeder typhon patern
1 Dark Shroud

1 Nephalim (if I'm just having fun - the model looks nice)
or
3 Attack bikes (Multi-melta)

The way I run this list is hard hitting and fast. SPEED KILLS!

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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





I like the list idea but for the bike squads that's 3 or 6 man at full strength? And I like to play the same way hit hard and fast! Kill the enemy before they know what's hit them!
   
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot





I'll be up front about them. The vengeance and the nephilim are not that great.

I like to compare the vengeance to the riptide. The guns they carry are very similar, except for the fact that the vengeance has infinitely shorter range. And is slightly weaker. And that the vengeance gets hurt on 6's from bolters like the riptide, except the riptide gets a 2+ against those, and has 5 wounds, vs the vengeance that gets a 4+ and has 2 hp. And will be firing snap shots. Overall the thing's just too flimsy to be effective. I mean, there's a chance that first turn you'll blow yourself up with gets hot.

The nephilims aren't quite as bad, but they're ineffective at what they do. If you throw the TL las on them, you're really limiting what you want to shoot at. Either you're firing at something that a las is effective against, like a tank, and wasting a bunch of S5 and S6 shooting, or wasting the las by firing the HB and missiles at a weaker target. With the mega bolter you're decent at taking down infantry, but that's about it The mega bolter is literally just a sub-standard assault cannon, it doesn't have rending.

As for the rest of your army, something similar to what Inkubas said above, but with the addition of another black knight squad, possibly with bike librarian.
   
 
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