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I was checking some of my 3D printing news sites and I came across this nugget.

http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150218-gambody-launches-a-3d-printing-marketplace-for-gamers.html
In the images were both Horus and an XV109 Y'vahra

I went to their website and sure enough, they have a small selection of Forge World items ready for pre-order which currently includes the XV109 Y'vahra, Malcador Infernus, Valkyrie Vendetta, Champlain, and Vulcan heavy tank.

This immediately smells fishy, I can't tell if this company is partnering with GW to sell copy protected one time use Forge World select STL, or if they're about to have GW's legal team crash down upon them.

http://www.gambody.com/item/list/search/40k

EDIT:
Their main product is making a special DRM for STL files so they can't be replicated.

We have already implemented a software for intellectually property protection (DRM). This solution protects the content and files

If they do have a license with GW, this could be a way for them to save money on resin Forge World models/parts.

You now need to change your picture in your signature to say "one does not simply PRINT a riptide"

Not seeing this last long unless the domain is based in Russia or china

There's no way that's legit.

This is most certainly a scam. I'm pretty sure most of the models shown were hand sculpted meaning that either they have a 3D sculptor creating them from scratch or are just trying to rob you of $25.

 Theophony wrote:
You now need to change your picture in your signature to say "one does not simply PRINT a riptide"

Not seeing this last long unless the domain is based in Russia or china

They are located in England, so in GW's backyard.


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Apparently, their main product is they developed is their custom DRM

We have already implemented a software for intellectually property protection (DRM). This solution protects the content and files

If they do have a license from GW, could this be a way for GW to save costs on resin Forge World models?

I'm haveing a hard time beliveing they can 3D print large models like that Riptide, the Vulcan, and other large modles for just $25.

I did spot something to figure out what is going on.
http://gambody.com/item/78/champlain_from_warhammer_40k_static_figure


I have never seen this 3D sculpt before. Dose anyone reconize it as maby a obscure fan sculpt that ended up on their website?

edit:
http://gambody.com/item/77/vulcan_heavy_tank_from_warhammer_40k_assembly_model

the 3D modle they show off for the Vulcan looks off to me. I need some other eyes to look at it for sure thow.

edit:
Oh they are selling the files to 3D print it yourself. I still look at the above two and wounder at the legitness.

For a company based in England, the English usage on the site is pretty bad.

timd wrote:
For a company based in England, the English usage on the site is pretty bad.

on the 3der's article linked in the OP they mention "As Alexander, the Ukrainian developer of Gambody explains to us".

I'm trying to find this info that they are english based and/or work with GW myself to check.

I'm haveing a hard time beliveing that GW would of gave them the OK to actully sell copies of their STL. Also all the warhammer stuff is "Pre-Order". I actually don't even see a date for when they will send you the files to download.

They do claim to be working with valve for the dota figures. But the Warhammer stuff is giveing me red flags, because that dosen't feel like something GW would be on board with.

Champlaine scale model soon will join the army of hoeros in your home - See more at: http://gambody.com/item/78/champlain_from_warhammer_40k_static_figure#sthash.CdRYEbjg.dpuf

Seems legit. I mean who doesn't want a champlaine to join their hoeros.

Why would GW Partner with a company and not announce it or have the said company have a prominently displayed licences agreement so as to avoid all confusion.

Also as we know from FFG ls agreement, GW doesn't give out third party rights to make minis even when they okay IP usage.

Cost are all wrong too.

Yeah sorry OP this is blatantly either a scam or digital remaking.

 notprop wrote:
Why would GW Partner with a company and not announce it or have the said company have a prominently displayed licences agreement so as to avoid all confusion.

Also as we know from FFG ls agreement, GW doesn't give out third party rights to make minis even when they okay IP usage.

Cost are all wrong too.

Yeah sorry OP this is blatantly either a scam or digital remaking.

The fact i don't think valve has ever talked about these guys either is a red flag to me.

The images for the FW stuff are images lifted straight from FW's site.

Looks like they used desaturated images for 3d chaplain from here: http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?59023

Actually the article says none of the stuff is even available to order yet, so they're probably hedging on over eager/naive people sending them money via "Pre-Order" while talking out of their backsides about being in touch with [name-drop gaming company]. Every other image featured has likely been lifted from the net, existing 3d file service sites, game developers' portfolios, etc. certainly without permission, to make them appear like a capable business model. So yeah, scam.

Couple ofd problems with this:

1) That site looks dodgier than most chinese recasters

2) the STL format is open and plain text. You can't DRM it without simultaneously making it utterly worthless. the point of STL is that it's a standard that can be used on any 3D printer, even ones you cobble together at home. to DRM it you have to be able to enforce DRM at both the software and hardware ends, which means they'd need to have some form of hardware or firmware component on the 3d printer itself to be able to decrypt the STL file

3) At their essence, STL files are just a series of vector instructions defining the movement of the print head and when it's active/inactive. if these "DRM'd STL files" are compatible with the STL format all you'd need to do was plug them in and have the printer read the instructions to convert it to a normal STL rather than to a physical printer. and if they're NOT compatrible with all 3D printers, then the cheap price of the models themselves is offset by the thousands of pounds you have to pay for a printer that is supported

And then there's still the garrin collection floating around the torrent pages...

This whole fun will truly take off once the printers support decent resolution. But it's nice to see that some semi-professional products are being released allready.

 Nilok wrote:
I can't tell if this company is partnering with GW to sell copy protected one time use Forge World select STL,

No they are not.

or if they're about to have GW's legal team crash down upon them.
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.. Seems a more than fair bet.

Yeah but no. This is straight-up copyright infringement.

Also, it's cute how they think all that detail on the 'champlaine' will render or paint well as an actual print... bless them.

Seriously, am I the only one who read the article the OP pointed to and thought this was referring to a proof of concept? I recall reading they were in talks with major game publishers - naming Valve and ActivisionBlizzard amongst others - to get rights to print their ingame assets? If so, showing Warhammer models as possible items they'd like to eventually provide is nothing more than an attempt at building hype (and shows they'd like to strike a deal with GW).

+ Edit : and then I took a moment more to reread it and realized the site IS live (although offering files for Pre-Order only, so far).. Oh well, I guess you guys are right, this sounds fishy now :/

 Player not found wrote:
Seriously, am I the only one who read the article the OP pointed to and thought this was referring to a proof of concept? I recall reading they were in talks with major game publishers - naming Valve and ActivisionBlizzard amongst others - to get rights to print their ingame assets? If so, showing Warhammer models as possible items they'd like to eventually provide is nothing more than an attempt at building hype (and shows they'd like to strike a deal with GW).

+ Edit : and then I took a moment more to reread it and realized the site IS live (although offering files for Pre-Order only, so far).. Oh well, I guess you guys are right, this sounds fishy now :/

HA!

At least you caught yourself within the span of one post!

As for this?

Yeah, would not touch with barge pole.

I would, if I had a 3D printer capable to match injection mould or any other decent casting quality. What's the best .stl in the world to you, if you miniatures look like line art?

They won't actually have STL files of these is the point, though - you'd be throwing $25 away (imo) or have to get it back via credit card chargeback. GW is certainly issuing them a C&D as we speak, and this thread wouldn't still be open if they actually had unauthorized STLs up on the site. They don't - but they're willing to take your money for a "preorder" of said files

I am definitely looking forward to when more STL files can be purchased that are wargaming related. There are a few really nice busts available for free at TurboSquid for printing:

http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/3D-Models/free/stl

Unfortunately, most of their models are not in STL format and not suitable for printing (intended for use in video games, etc). Here is one of their busts that I printed:

Seems legit! I think this is definitely for real.

You can all scoff, but the last laugh will be mine when GW announces headline news in next month's White Dwarf, announcing a new and exciting partnership with Gambody.com!

In that article's first image alone I can see a few 1/35th scale tank kits that they've just ripped off of other company's store pages. The rest are clearly stolen as well (yes let's post concept art images instead of ones of the actual models). Ah, but yes this stunk of scam all over, I'm just prissy over how poorly its been done. Come on if you're going to try and screw someone at least dupe them long enough to take their money and make them look like fools. Someone who falls at the first hurdle just looks silly.

I can model and digital sculpt, outputting in STL.. if these guys are printing just anyone's STL files, I will be dropping them a line.. those prints look really smooth..

 MLaw wrote:
those prints look really smooth..

That's because it's a scam. If you want to print your models just use one of the existing legitimate services.

 Pacific wrote:
Seems legit! I think this is definitely for real.

You can all scoff, but the last laugh will be mine when GW announces headline news in next month's White Dwarf, announcing a new and exciting partnership with Gambody.com!

please someone will think you are being serious and actually give them money........

on second hand if you are silly enough to give them money you arent responsable to have that $25

Peregrine - Thanks for spelling it out.. I did not look closely enough. Do you happen to know a service that will print your files and NOT look it's been printed in powdered potatoes or coated with non-skid?

 MLaw wrote:
Peregrine - Thanks for spelling it out.. I did not look closely enough. Do you happen to know a service that will print your files and NOT look it's been printed in powdered potatoes or coated with non-skid?

There are quite a few places that will do that but the difference is cost. A production 3D print for something in 28-32mm range can range from $60-$200 depending on how it was designed, cut up and what material you want it done with.

http://www.moddler.com/portfolio

For an example, depending on which machine it is done on (he has a couple) gets different results in cost. For the most part you will not see stepping if the piece is designed properly, part covering it up is in the design, how it is cut up (if multiple pieces) and how it is laid out to print.

 Dark Severance wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Peregrine - Thanks for spelling it out.. I did not look closely enough. Do you happen to know a service that will print your files and NOT look it's been printed in powdered potatoes or coated with non-skid?

There are quite a few places that will do that but the difference is cost. A production 3D print for something in 28-32mm range can range from $60-$200 depending on how it was designed, cut up and what material you want it done with.

http://www.moddler.com/portfolio

For an example, depending on which machine it is done on (he has a couple) gets different results in cost. For the most part you will not see stepping if the piece is designed properly, part covering it up is in the design, how it is cut up (if multiple pieces) and how it is laid out to print.

Thank you!
I'll try to catch Mark to ask him about the experience since he's pretty good about responding to social media type questions