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What follows is a new player guide for Epic 40K. This is my first attempt at a guide of this nature so please be gentle!

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The purpose of this thread: You think the above miniatures and artwork look awesome. You want to give 30/40k at 6mm scale a go, or even collect and paint some miniatures. But where do you start?

In amongst the Adeptus Titanicus thread in N&R and some other threads dotted about the forum, it's come to attention that a lot of gamers don't know about the continued existence of Epic 40K game and the ongoing community, despite official support from GW having ended some years ago now. This applied to me too until only a short period of time ago! Upon finding some miniatures in the attic (which had been untouched for 20yrs) and giving them a much needed new coat of paint, I was pointed in the direction of various forums, facebook groups, websites and blog posts that continue to service the game. It's been a shock (a very nice one!) that the game is still going so strong, with regular tournaments and campaign events (held globally) and dedicated groups focused on keeping the rules and army lists fresh and balanced.

So my thoughts turned to how many people are in the same boat as myself? Perhaps someone that played the game (in its various incarnations) in the past, has pulled some minis out of storage and is wondering how to get back into the game? Or perhaps the younger generation that have only ever known smiting in the name of the Emperor in 28mm, but is intrigued by the scale of conflict possible in this game? Or even someone that wants to get a head-start on the forthcoming Adeptus Titanicus game?

There are several other, very comprehensive guides that can tell you everything you need to know, from people much more experienced and knowledgeable than I (and more on those later), but I thought it would be a nice idea to record my findings as a relative newbie (or oldie!) beginning to collect in 6mm again. And perhaps there will be other Dakkanauts who can share their thoughts here; What version of the game to play? Where can I get miniatures and won't I get ripped-off on ebay? What's the hell is a Squat, and are you sure it's OK to buy something not covered in shrink-wrap?!

So please bear in mind that this thread is very much a formative one and I'm hoping others will add their input - or at the very least will save people some time if they want to learn what the game is all about!

The Community
The important one! Obviously you already have Dakka (and hopefully this thread will help corral together some other interested folk), but there are some great other places around the web:

The Epic Wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_(game)
What is Epic? A very useful summary for the uninitiated.
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The EPIC SPACE MARINE Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/SMEPIC40K/
A great starting point, although there are other Epic/6mm groups. Very active community with 2000+ members, see lots of pics of armies and battle reports, artwork, event news and rules queries.
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The Tactical Command Forum https://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/index.php?sid=fee1775328d18df28d56019358ff35ed
Find literally everything you need to here about any version of epic, and have any rules question answered from a cadre of very dedicated and friendly members. A great hub for events.
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Epic UK http://epic-uk.co.uk/wp/
A hub for the UK-based event and tournament scene, a great source for army lists and other info.
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Net Epic Armageddon http://www.net-armageddon.org/
A substantial rules and army list suppository for the Armageddon version of Epic.
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Epic Armageddon by Guildford Games Club https://guildfordgamesclub.wordpress.com/tag/epic-armageddon/
A comprehensive collection of army/faction guides. Great place to start if you want to start with an army but are not sure where!
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Epic Heresy AU https://web.archive.org/web/20201112013556/http://epicau.com/mw/index.php/Legion_Astartes
An attempt to re-create the Forgeworld Heresy 30k range and books for 6mm scale. Comprehensive army lists and advice for getting started. NOTE: Also available from the Epic Space Marine Middlehammer Facebook group (file section) if the Wayback machine link does not work).
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Imperius Dominatus https://www.facebook.com/groups/389010114859638
New for October 2020 - 30k Heresy on a ruleset based on Space Marine/NetEpic Gold.

Podcasts & Youtube
Crown of Command Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/5H1sVwFSX8eosiUHmlBgbo
Excellent commentary on the original, 2nd edition and Titan Legion Epic Space Marine releases
Tabletop Standard Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM-LaaRlKaRZtxYztCdwfbIJ7v3UIHYZ4
Some very professionally (and fun) battle reports of 30k Horus Heresy Epic Armageddon

The Rules
Firstly, it's important to mention that GW have been very, very nice about allowing old rule sets to remain in circulation. They're not officially hosted on a GW server anymore, but they are available to download for free from various sources depending on which version of the game you want to play. You do see a few of the 'old guard' (either ex or current GW developers) in amongst the online community from time to time, which gives the impression of fond feeling towards the game.

As there is no 'official' version of rules instead the community formed around the last (and in the eyes of some, ultimate) version, Epic Armageddon. However there are other epic groups centered around the older 'Epic Space Marine' and 'Epic 40,000' versions of the game. The great thing is, that as they use the same miniatures it's relatively easy to adapt a force to use in one system or another.

This very handy guide (courtesy of WargameTrader) helps show the different versions of the game that were released, with links below:


There is also a great Youtube video, courtesy of Snipe & Wib, which does a great run down on the history of the game:



Please also check out this great Website resource at https://zedmeister.co.uk/zms.php?ch=7. Not sure which version of the game you played or where you read a White Dwarf article? This site will definitely give you a hand!

Hopefully that helped! Here are some possibly more useful links to currently used rule-sets:
Armageddon (also called 'NetEpic' and 'NetEpic Armageddon' - the currently live & ongoing development of the 4th edition of the game) http://epic-uk.co.uk/wp/rules/ or https://www.net-armageddon.org/rules.html
NetEpic Gold (a 'finalised', and very nicely presented, version of 1st/2nd edition Epic Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine) http://www.netepic.org/netepic.html
Epic 40,000 (based on GW's 3rd edition of the game - the very fast/streamlined, but short-lived, one) https://app.box.com/s/u2lp17fjol5izgcihdcwz4liulm7v8mr
Imperius Dominatus From the creators of NetEpic Gold, Horus Heresy/30k ruleset. Rules and army lists freely downloadable from the website. Plans to release alien factions (everything from 40k and Epic historically)

The Miniatures
The best bit!

Firstly, check out MiniWars for a really great reference for where to get hold of various miniatures for each of the unit choices for Epic armies. This covers both the GW historical ranges and also has a pretty comprehensive view of proxy miniatures from other manufacturers that fit the bill. +Update 2020+ This website has now had a functionality update that makes it even more useful than before.
https://miniwars.co.uk/

In summary, there has never been a better time to get into Epic (except perhaps back in 1995!) and there are three main choices here:

eBay - The obvious choice, there are masses of miniatures available. Expect to pay top $ for new, boxed or sealed miniatures from old ranges, however some prudent shopping and a bit of patience (especially if you enjoy treasure hunting, and are prepared to gamble a bit when zooming in and searching through clear-out miniature piles!) it's very easy to collect a substantial force for relatively little money. Ignore the 'buy-it-now, single 6mm miniature for £5' range - the chances are the same mini will show up again, at the fraction of the cost, as a part of a clear out or collection. As far as I know, counterfeiting is rare - it's not something I have experienced, and the usual tell-tale signs (resin copies of metal minis, suspiciously cheap collections from Russia or China) aren't present. So you should be safe with most purchases.
See also: Buying miniatures from the Epic facebook groups, trade sections of Tactical Command, very useful if you're after a rare miniature.

New 3rd-party miniature producers - A few of these have sprung up over recent years, basically since GW Legal stopped pursuing garage-casters and claiming legal rights to halberds, skulls and the like. These have had the double benefit of helping to push down eBay prices of official 2nd hand minis, but have also resulted in some fantastic new sculpts - arguably better than the older GW minis in a lot of cases, if you can put up with something looking slightly different to a Rhino. Here are a few of the more popular choices:
Vanguard Miniatures - http://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/ - Your one-stop shop, Vanguard have gobbled up a few other miniature ranges and now sell everything from Skinnerz (Orks), Novan Elite (marines), Grudd (Squats/Demiurg) and others. Constantly expanding range, very high quality and notably 'dynamically' posed infantry, rather than the static rank & file of the old GW plastics.
HLS Miniatures - https://hlsmodels.com/ - Sell the miniature range of the now sadly defunct Steel Crown miniatures - contains approximations of Necrons, human sci-fi armies amongst others, and some nice titans.
Onslaught Miniatures http://www.onslaughtmini.com/ - Great proxies for Tau, Dark Eldar, Cultists, Squats and others!
Bradley Miniatures - https://www.alternative-armies.com/collections/bradley-miniatures-6mm-range - Some proxies for Marines and Guard
Trolls under the bridge - https://www.trolls.cz/collections/6mm-warfare - Some conversion components (yes really!) for the GW miniature range.
Microworld Games - https://www.microworldgames.com/collections/6mm-scifi - These guys have their own game, but there are some good proxies for 'sci-fi humans', chaos beastmen and the like.

3D printing files for Miniatures & Terrain
Bits Blitz Designs - https://cults3d.com/en/users/BitsBlitzDesigns/creations- terrain, miniatures and accessories from 6-8mm.
Grimdark Terrain - https://grimdarkterrain.com/ - wide range of Epic and AT-usable 3d terrain files. Also lists associated printing services.
The Lazy Forger - https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger - Wide range of terrain files, modular components for a variety of sci-fi settings.
Vanguard Miniatures 3D files https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/3d-printable-stl-files/ - Collection of files from Vanguard, Bits Blitz and Troublemaker games

3D printed file miniatures for sale
Mighty Minis UK https://www.mighty-minis-uk.com/ - Collection of 3D file prints from Lazy Forger, Bitz Blitz amongst others. Also UK distributor for Onslaught Games and sell some 2nd hand Epic.

Adeptus Titanicus- Last but not least, GW's re-imagining of the original game from 30 years ago. Immensely awesome game of Titan combat, an excellent game in its own right or use the new miniatures for Titans in Epic. You can keep up with the latest news in the N&R thread here on Dakka as well as the Specialist Games area of the forum https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/716640.page


Terrain
Some links a-z below for finding terrain for your 6/8mm games - hopefully enough to get started, but if anyone knows of any more please drop a note!
Also, on a general note searches on Ebay for "Epic terrain" or "6mm Terrain" will yield a variety of results from small garage sellers, 3D printed ruins amongst other useful things.

4Ground https://www.4groundpublishing.co.uk/microscale - 'Sci-fi' Micro range for AT and Epic, with some big Warlord-Titan blocking building kits. Expensive but some wonderful stuff.
Blotz https://blotz.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_59 - Very reasonably priced wooden building kit range. Ideal if you want to pack out a city tabletop.
CPmodels https://cpmodels.co.uk/product-category/6mm-ranges-2/ - Mix of sci-fi buildings and units in resin, some useful for Orks or human frontier worlds.
Daemonscape http://daemonscape.com/contents/en-uk/d4.html - Wide range of resin 6mm buildings, generic sci-fi but can serve as human/alien. Some civilian vehicles too.
Forge World https://www.forgeworld.co.uk - A range of gaming boards based on Imperial worlds.
Games Workshop https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/searchResults?N=3281529261+841014512 - Official plastic kits of Imperial city buildings for Adeptus Titanicus.
GC Mini http://gcmini.mybigcommerce.com/6mm-1-285th/ - Very wide range of 6mm, mostly wooden kits. A lot for historical but can be re-themed easily for epic.
OTP Terrain https://www.otpterrain.com/ - 3D printed buildings, as well as a very cool armoured train kit and railway track (hurrah!)
Vanguard https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/terrain/ - Carry a range of Epic terrain from other, smaller. manufacturers
Wasteland Studios https://www.wastelandgamestudio.com/ - A wide variety of Imperial-themed buildings, roads, industrial bits and accessories.


Painting and Modelling
This area to be expanded. Guides to painting and modelling at 6-8mm scale.
Quick guide to painting Epic Infantry. https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/788741.page - A guide I have created showing simple methods to painting Infantry bases.

Now get out there and start Epic gaming!

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Don't forget Onslaught Miniatures as a third party: http://www.onslaughtmini.com/

Oh....and besides, 6mm (or the rumoured 8mm) is too big anyways, go for 3mm!

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Great guide Pacific

If you do a FAQ section at any point -

"Aren't 6mm models too small and fiddly to paint?"

"No. Just the opposite in fact, paint jobs that look great are easy - basecoat of 2 or 3 colours and metal for the weapons, quick wash and a few highlights, and done. As they are so cheap, best thing to do is buy a few and give them a try!"
   
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Looks very comprehensive, well done!
I'd suggest you add a reference to onslaught. They're doing some very nice tau, dark eldar, cultist and what not stuff. Along the line of almost GW but not quite the same.

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Many thanks guys!

I've added the reference to Onslaught Miniatures.

Great idea about the FAQ Darkjim - That would be a good first one, now to think what else is frequently asked!

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A blog and battle report that was just brought to my attention from an Italian website - well worth looking at!

This shows what absolutely mental (but in a good way!) fans and players you have playing Epic. Just the level of dedication involved - wow!
http://eatotalwar.forumfree.it/?t=73628951

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I was looking to try and get back into Epic - thank you for all of this!

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I've written a - fairly comprehensive - set of break downs of the different armies currently in Epic Armageddon as well as a quick article on painting at 6mm

I can post a link to them if people would like to read through?

I can;t do it my first post, so if someone wants to see I can hopefully link in post number 2.

Until then here's the entry for Imperial Space Marines

[spoiler]The Imperial Space Marines

The Imperial Space Marines. Bioengineered warrior monks and crusading knight analogues in the sci-fantasy future! The razors edge on the blade of Imperial might. Keepers of dark secrets, wild ravaging nomads, crusading brethren and much more.

Link To Space Marine Codex

There are several chapters with their own lists as well as a basic Codex Marines list. Dark Angels, White Scars, Blood Angels, Space Wolves and Black Templars. The Codex Marines list may appear at first glance as a more ‘generic’ list but it focuses on an aerial assault playstyle so may not be the best pick for how you want to play.

IN GENERAL

Space marine lists tend towards having larger numbers of smaller formations. They tend to roll fewer dice but have better to hit values and armour values in return as well as the And They Shall Know No Fear special rule to overcome some of the weaknesses their smaller formation sizes can lead to. They also have good access to a lot of mobility options and ways of entering and leaving the table.

Space marines are a finesse force, requiring a firm grasp of how to get your models into positions to support one another, focusing their force in a small area of the table, destroying the opposition there and then often leaving the table again to rapidly shift the focus of attack to a different point. This makes them less beginner friendly than might be expected from Warhammer 40k but it does mean they play more like a group of special operative teams finding ways to overcome far larger numbers of opposition.

CODEX MARINES

The Codex Marine list generally favours use of aerial assets and scouting forces. Using landspeeders, scouts and warhounds to create space on the table and to control how your opponent can move around the board whilst also placing blast markers on the enemy. Then, once an opportunity presents itself (or has been engineered by your scouting forces) you land a hammer blow with your aerial assets and destroy a part of your opponent’s army. Then ideally you extract the hammer blow formations back from the table and repeat the process next turn.

This is mostly achieved through the use of a pair of Thunderhawks and a formation of Terminators. Terminators are extremely powerful and their weakness in mobility is overcome by using the Thunderhawks to land them on the table and then have the second (empty!) one land and pick them back up again to fly off the table. Cycling them on and off the table each turn.

The list also supports more traditional ‘marines in rhinos’ rushing about the place though this exposes your smaller numbers of models to greater risk than the aerial approach. Or use of spaceships for orbital drops – which plays similarly to the aerial circus approach but lands more powerful assets in a single strike in exchange for losing the ability to recycle them for later turns.

Codex marines also have many options and a very flexible army list allowing a great deal of freedom to make skew lists and play themes of your own devising. Taking nothing but Terminators or an armoured division with predators, vindicators and land raiders everywhere is…while not particularly advised from a competitive stand point probably a lot of fun to play.

However the Codex marines have a general lack of good anti-Titan tools and dealing with large numbers of, or particularly powerful forms of, War Engines will take care and the correct use of the support fire rules to get enough models to be involved in the fights to overcome them. You will also likely find that your shooting phases are not a game winner, the combination of smaller numbers of models and shorter ranges overall means you won’t be defeating your opponents hordes of Boyz with raw firepower, instead the shooting should be looked at as a way of setting up your decisive Engagements.

Playing successfully with the Codex Marines will likely require a good understanding of how to use the blast marker, Engagement and Supporting Fire rules so brushing up on those will probably help your play considerably!

DARK ANGELS

Very similar to the Codex Marine list in playstyle. It sacrifices access to the Titan Legion and Imperial Navy assets (because Dark Angels need to keep their secrets, can’t have some nosy guardsman stumbling across something…) to gain better Devastators, Nephilim and Ravenwing formations.

The advice for Codex Marines holds true here, scouting forces and aerial assets will be your bread and butter but the Devastators can make your orbital attacks more powerful (their better shooting is well worth the slow firing penalty because generally you’d want to shoot once and then be stuck in Engagements rather than standing off and firing multiple turns over) and the particular stand out is the Ravenwing formation. It mixes Bikes with Landspeeders and because of the Garrison rules allowing a formation that has at least half the models with the scout rule (the landspeeders have scout!) to Garrison that means you can have a strong combat formation on the half way line before the first turn even start!

Dark Angels are arguably an even better version of the Codex Marines list. Due to their cost and list skewing impacts the larger Titans are not a common sight so their loss here is not really felt and the Ravenwing compete for the same role the Warhound would have taken. Nephilim are better – but more expensive – substitutes for Thunderbolts too.

Incidentally the Ravenwing formations and other mobile assets of the list in general mean that they could make a different spin on the lightning warfare role the White Scars are famous for. If the sacrifices the White Scars list makes for its unique toys are too much for you perhaps consider the Dark Angels with a different paint job

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Yes, absolutely, please!

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Epic is a much better game system than 40k.
I'd still play it, if you know, there was anyone left in my area that did. Very dissapointed GW moved away from their excellent Specialist game rules towards the style for 40k.

It shows epic players are still playing the same GW Release a decade after it died, but can't have a 40k event without houseruling it to death.

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 Mysterio wrote:
Yes, absolutely, please!


Hopefully I can link in post number 2. If you have any specific questions about the game, factions, etc. please feel free to ask!

https://guildfordgamesclub.wordpress.com/tag/epic-armageddon/

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Brilliant, thanks a lot for those Scutarii

I've added the Guilford Games Club link in the main article above.

Think those are really, really useful, especially to new players who want some kind of guidance when starting out a faction. I used it myself (or think I had read a copy elsewhere) when I first starte collecting Orks, and it was indispensable.

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I just wanted to post to show my respect/support. In the US since there isn't much of a "gaming club" culture per se, we're often at the mercy of what a given shop supports. If a game is "dead" they see no revenue stream, and thus don't encourage the game's presence.

There's something to be said for the importance of a re-release. I have almost no interest in the upcoming Titanicus, but I sincerely hope it'll be a gateway for a return of Epic.

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For anyone UK based there are a couple of really good army deals on the 'Bay at the moment (less £50, some auction time remaining) - I spotted Marines and IG, possibly others. There is a fair bit about at the moment, although it's been noted in the FB groups that prices are starting to rise.

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I just wanted to post to show my respect/support. In the US since there isn't much of a "gaming club" culture per se, we're often at the mercy of what a given shop supports. If a game is "dead" they see no revenue stream, and thus don't encourage the game's presence.

There's something to be said for the importance of a re-release. I have almost no interest in the upcoming Titanicus, but I sincerely hope it'll be a gateway for a return of Epic.


Yes I think so, definitely. It will being the game back into the gaming public's consciousness. Definitely will help that shops can put something on their shelves and then can be played in the store (we have a fair bit of gaming store/club setup in the UK too)

My thoughts are boxes of AT on the shelves plus supplements. I don't think it will go much beyond that, but it would be nice if some of the companies that make miniatures for Epic can grow a bit as a result of this and maybe even have some of their products on shop shelves. Which will grow the Epic community as a whole.

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While i do have a inntrest in this game, what turns me off is the simple fact that GW dont make it anymore and thus no complete pruduct line is avalible.

I browsed true ebay this morning, found plenty of SM, orc and eldar infantry stuff some very cheap other very expensive(and half of them did not ship outside of u.s/germany) but very little vehicles or titans or flyers or other fun stuff.
and imperial guard was more or less non existant.

3rd party models while they look good, has only a small fraction of units up for sale.

As i see it, specialist range games today is for thouse who owned the models before specialist range was pulled of, not for us who has nothing and need everything.

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Vanguard Miniatures has proxies for most of the Imperial (Space Marines and Imperial Guard) units, even the Titan Legions/Adeptus Mechanicus is more or less complete.

Their Ork proxies still need some expanding, but I wouldn't call it a 'small fraction'. The Tainted (Chaos proxies) are just getting started, with more stuff on its way.

However, their Eloi (Eldar proxies) are indeed a tiny fraction of a complete army, but it's a bit of a catch 22. Production of such a complete range is a big investment (and risk) which might not sell, but the current stuff might not sell well because it isn't a complete range.

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There's also Onslaught Miniatures providing essentially a full range for Dark Eldar and Tau as well as various Imperial Knights and are well on their way with Squats.
   
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True! Do keep in mind that Onslaught do need to expand their super heavy and big walkers ranges.

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Do any of these places:


Armageddon (also called 'NetEpic' and 'NetEpic Armageddon' - the currently live & ongoing development of the 4th edition of the game) http://epic-uk.co.uk/wp/rules/ or http://www.net-armageddon.org/page/rules
NetEpic Gold (a 'finalised', and very nicely presented, version of 1st/2nd edition Epic Adeptus Titanicus and Space Marine) http://www.netepic.org/netepic.html
Epic 40,000 (based on GW's 3rd edition of the game - the very fast/streamlined, but short-lived, one) https://app.box.com/s/u2lp17fjol5izgcihdcwz4liulm7v8mr


have a good 'player finder' thread?

I'd love to get back into gaming at this scale, but...need some fellow gamers in order to make that happen!

   
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I'm not sure about a dedicated player finder per-se. The Tactical Command forum would be a good place to try (perhaps make a post here http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewforum.php?f=88 )

Otherwise the Facebook group might be worth a try as you'll have lots of active players https://www.facebook.com/groups/SMEPIC40K/

I've been able to find local tournaments and events from Tactical Command forum - although guess that might be a bit more difficult in the States as its a much larger country!

Otherwise I've just got a mate to play who used to play Epic back in the day - there are a lot of veteran players of the game and most have fond memories of it, especially now that the new AT game has come along.

Let us know how you get along (and if you have any mini-scale projects on the go!)

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Thank you for those links - much appreciated, as always!

I think I'll probably be looking to find a NetEpic Gold community and/or player or two, as I most enjoyed Space Marine/Titan Legions.

And I've already picked up a bunch of new Titans, so I'll definitely be adding to them with infantry and vehicles from...somewhere, eventually.

Especially with Stormhammers, if I can find them.

Love me some Stormhammers...


   
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Stormhammers are great aren't they! Very versatile for shorter range combat.

I like Space Marine too - I think it's probably the better game for really large scale epic games as the movement, shooting etc. is much swifter than Armageddon (although I think it loses a little with the detail of combat and tactics involved).

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Hey folks - some time since I've had anything to add to this thread, but after working on an Epic/AT board for a while have come up with a few links for Terrain options - I've listed these a-z below, hopefully enough to get started, but if anyone knows of any more please drop a note!

Also, on a general note searches on Ebay for "Epic terrain" or "6mm Terrain" will yield a variety of results from small garage sellers, 3D printed ruins amongst other useful things.

4Ground https://www.4ground.co.uk/scifi-micro - 'Sci-fi' Micro range for AT and Epic, with some big Warlord-Titan blocking building kits. Expensive but some wonderful stuff.
Blotz https://blotz.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_59 - Very reasonably priced wooden building kit range. Ideal if you want to pack out a city tabletop.
CPmodels https://cpmodels.co.uk/product-category/6mm-ranges-2/ - Mix of sci-fi buildings and units in resin, some useful for Orks or human frontier worlds.
Daemonscape http://daemonscape.com/contents/en-uk/d4.html - Wide range of resin 6mm buildings, generic sci-fi but can serve as human/alien. Some civilian vehicles too.
Forge World https://www.forgeworld.co.uk - A range of gaming boards based on Imperial worlds.
Games Workshop https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/searchResults?N=3281529261+841014512 - Official plastic kits of Imperial city buildings for Adeptus Titanicus.
GC Mini http://gcmini.mybigcommerce.com/6mm-1-285th/ - Very wide range of 6mm, mostly wooden kits. A lot for historical but can be re-themed easily for epic.
OTP Terrain https://www.otpterrain.com/ - 3D printed buildings, as well as a very cool armoured train kit and railway track (hurrah!)
Vanguard https://vanguardminiatures.co.uk/product-category/terrain/ - Carry a range of Epic terrain from other, smaller. manufacturers
Wasteland Studios https://www.wastelandgamestudio.com/ - A wide variety of Imperial-themed buildings, roads, industrial bits and accessories.

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Sorry for the Threadnomancy here...but...no, I'm really not that sorry!

I *really* want to get back into Epic.

I'm *trying* to log on to the Tactical Command website.

But...I keep getting error messages about my account not being activated, and that I should contact the admins.

Only...I don't see a way to actually do that?

Anyone have any suggestions?

   
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This email worked:

webdude @ tacticalwargames.net

My account is re-activated, I'm in and...looking to rebuild and find a gaming group.

   
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Good luck with finding the gaming group Alpharius !

As an alternative, have you got any willing accomplices who could get roped in if you supply the minis? I'm in the process of building my own gaming group - having to build and paint a fair amount, but with it being 6mm its not too much of a chore

As a side note, what force are you going to start collecting first?

PS - the Tactical Command forum is a great place and really helpful, but I think the website tech probably predates Epic itself (or maybe even Adeptus Titanicus for that matter!)

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Ive got enough (or am trying to buy up enough!) for Space Marines, Guard, Orks and Eldar.

And I can probably get a friend of mine to play a game or two every now and then, if all else fails!

I’ll probably stick with Space Marine/Titan Legions (NetEpic Gold?) for rules, unless there’s a gaming group nearby that plays something else...


   
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Worst case scenario, you could try doing 'mini hammer', which is basically 40k but with 6mm models. Very low risk gateway into full on 6mm madness!

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Yes, but then you suffer the consequence of the rules & game being gak

I'm building up to use for Epic Armageddon as I love the breaking/assault rules and the way combined arms take a role (funnily enough think it's probably the most 'accurate' rules in terms of representation of warfare that GW have ever published) but I do like the Space Marine/Net Epic rules too - I definitely think they work better for larger points values.

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Epic Armageddon - is that the 4th edition?

Epic 40,000 is the one that turned a lot of people off right?

The Guns/Bug Guns Edition?

I’m holding out hope for a SM/TL and/or NetEpic group, somewhat nearby.

Really only need one or two people, actually...

   
 
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