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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 12:45:26
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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SO this is a revision of the list originally found here
This plays on wounds through Ld reduction and a whole lot of deep striking! It just seems like a fun concept and is one that I'm eager to test out:
Dark Eldar Primary Faction
HQ
Archon
- Clone Field
- Huskblade
- PGL
- Soul Trap
- WWP
- Arch Angel of Pain
Haemonculus
- Armour of Misery
- Liquifier Gun
Elites
2 squads of Trueborn, both with:
4x blaster-born
Dracon
- PGL
Venom
- 1x splinter cannons
Troops
2 squads of Kabalite Warriors, both with
Sybarite
- PGL
9 warriors (1x splinter cannon + 1x shredder)
In a raider with Disi Cannon, Night Shield, Splinter Racks & TGL
Fast Attack
6x Reavers with 2x cluster caltrops
Extra Raider with no upgrades (as a spare ride should the Archon & his retinue need a pickup after deepstriking)
Heavy Support
2x Ravagers with Dark Lances
Eldar Allies
HQ
Farseer with Witch Blade
Troops
2 squads of 5 rangers
Harlequin Allies
Elites
Shadowseer
- ML1
- Mask of Secrets
Troops
Troupe
- Troupe Master with Crescendo & Kiss
- 2x Players with Embrace
- 1x Player with Kiss
- 1x Player with Caress
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So the idea is to create a bit of, what I think will be, a Deathstar.. The Archon, Haemy, Farseer & Harlequins (inc Seer) all lunk in together on foot. They deepstrike out of the WWP right in the face of as many targets as they possibly can (ie, in the centre of multiple units). The hope is that they're in close enough range for Arour of Misery (-2 Ld), Mask of Secrets (-2 Ld) to take automatic effect. The Archon opens the ArchAngel of Pain for wound causing Ld test at a further -2 Ld (currently at -6 Ld!) The Farseer & Shadow Seer cast their magic about, which would hopefully reduce the Ld further, if applicable, which it would be in subsequent rounds.
Transports have deep struck or manouvered to surround the enemy, causing fall back moves in to my units for rapid fire fange (warriors only of course). However, this is where the PGL and TGL's come in, which cause further wounds on failed Ld tests, which - hopefully - are still reduced by the effects of the equipment already mentioned.
Maybe not a tournament list, but a damn fun one nonetheless. Have I misread anything? Is the list legal?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 15:51:19
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Screaming Shining Spear
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How are you running the harlequins that way??? Its not any of the formations or the detachment as far as I remember
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 18:07:27
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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I wasn't aware they had to be taken in a certain way? Thought you could just run them as an ally consisting 1hq (seer) and 1 troop?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 20:59:49
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Seer is Elite not HQ you even have him listed as Elite.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 21:11:47
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Lieutenant General
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As pointed out, you can't run Harlequins using the Allied Detachment since they lack the mandatory HQ in order to do so.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 22:19:39
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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But they don't have an HQ slot? All they have is elites, troops, fast attack and heavy support? He's listed as elite as the slot he fills in battlescribe, though obviously he'd fill the HQ slot as far as the list is built? I know a troop master can be selected as the HQ too, though he's still listed in troop section, so how's that work?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 22:21:35
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Infiltrating Naga
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Ghaz wrote:As pointed out, you can't run Harlequins using the Allied Detachment since they lack the mandatory HQ in order to do so.
Thats not true, you can still ally to a formation, in which case ignores the requirement of a regular allied attachments requirements. The downside, you must pay for the entire formation, none of which are very cheap to include.
Shadowseer
- ML1
- Mask of Secrets
Troops
Troupe
- Troupe Master with Crescendo & Kiss
- 2x Players with Embrace
- 1x Player with Kiss
- 1x Player with Caress
You can run this if you add a Deathjester because then you have the formation "Cast of players" the downside is they all have to be within a single unit. So you can't move the shadowseer from the troupe. Same for the jester. Automatically Appended Next Post: kitch102 wrote:But they don't have an HQ slot? All they have is elites, troops, fast attack and heavy support? He's listed as elite as the slot he fills in battlescribe, though obviously he'd fill the HQ slot as far as the list is built? I know a troop master can be selected as the HQ too, though he's still listed in troop section, so how's that work?
Troupe master can be selected as your warlord. There is no thing as a HQ in the book. Everything is formations which nul and void regular force organization requirement charts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 22:34:00
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Simple swap then, lose 1 squad of rangers for the jester, problem solved right?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 22:40:53
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Thats not true, you can still ally to a formation, in which case ignores the requirement of a regular allied attachments requirements. The downside, you must pay for the entire formation, none of which are very cheap to include.
The Allied Detachment is a specific detachment so he was no correct. You can of course ally with Harlequins using any other detachment (like the Formations or the Masque) but you can't use the Allied Detachment due to a lack of HQ option.
But they don't have an HQ slot? All they have is elites, troops, fast attack and heavy support? He's listed as elite as the slot he fills in battlescribe, though obviously he'd fill the HQ slot as far as the list is built? I know a troop master can be selected as the HQ too, though he's still listed in troop section, so how's that work?
Troupe master can be Warlord he can't be a HQ. Yes all they have are Elites, Troops, FA & HS, so they can't use any detachment that requires a HQ slot (so no CAD or Allied Detachment). Automatically Appended Next Post: kitch102 wrote:Simple swap then, lose 1 squad of rangers for the jester, problem solved right?!
Yes but then the Death Jester and Seer HAVE to join the Troupe and can't leave assuming you're using the Cast of Players formation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 23:18:30
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Lieutenant General
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Sasa0mg wrote: Ghaz wrote:As pointed out, you can't run Harlequins using the Allied Detachment since they lack the mandatory HQ in order to do so. Thats not true, you can still ally to a formation, in which case ignores the requirement of a regular allied attachments requirements. The downside, you must pay for the entire formation, none of which are very cheap to include.
Notice I said 'the Allied Detachment' and not 'an allied detachment'. The Allied Detachment has a compulsory 1 HQ and 1 Troops, with an optional 1 Troops, 1 Elites, 1 Fast Attack and 1 Heavy Support. Harlequins have no HQ units, so can not meet the requirements of an Allied Detachment.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/02/27 23:21:01
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/27 23:28:11
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Not being able to split the seer / jester off from the unit doesn't really bother me tbh, is there a particular reason I'd want to? I can only really think of transport capacity and to buff another unit, though would rather keep my Ld debuffs in the one squad, really just for simplicity sake lol Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually the addition of a jester only makes the debuff even stronger due to the Death Is Not Enough rule, so win win!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/02/27 23:29:58
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/28 13:16:25
Subject: [2000] - DE Bastard List version 2 - 2000 point Dark Eldar, Eldar & Harlequins
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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So I just ran this list by my flgs manager, it's all legal and is "a right filthy trick", just like a true dark eldar should use.
Now to get buying, building and painting!
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