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Hey, I'm looking to try out a chaos bike star, using a nurgle chaos lord, un marked sorcerer, and 10 mark of nurgle bikes.

Ally in belakor, with some horrors.

Idea is to use belakor casting invis/shrouding and the sorcerer using divination on the squad.

Is this viable? Useful? Any suggestions?

They're not bad as is. However, if you allready go Nurgle, why not spawns? They'd come out more resilient point to point in general and wouldn't mind Lord's death + could operate on their own due to fearless.

If you were running Khorne or Slaanesh, bikes are probably a better idea - especially for slaanesh as fnp is good while khornates bikers are probably just better than unmarked/khornate spawns. But i'd probably pick spawns over bikers for Nurgle.

Anywayz, nurgle bikers can and will work. Don't forget a fear icon. It's worth it on such an expensive squad and adds +1 to combat results to more reliably sweep the opponent. And take meltas + power fist or mb/axe on a champ. One of the advantages bikes have over spawns is shooting and special weapons - use it.

Don't want spawn for this I want bikes for their jink+shrouding

Oh, sure than! Is Nurgle your choice cause it's an army theme or cause you want +1 toughness? As i do think slaaneshits or khornates would do better in this regard. You seem to not lack durability with all those fancy buffs. Icon of Wraths is absolutely worth it making their charges much more reliable and granting them significant hitting power. And Icon of Excess will add even more durability.

Hmm. I personally love khorne much more than nurgle. But I know the nurgle lord on bike with crimson slaughter gear is a beast! So that's why I was going nurgle route, for him and the added toughness for the other bikers.


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But I want to say I do run the nurgle spawn/lord unit, and I really enjoy it, it's just not the directing this particular brain storm is heading

To be honest, i'm not sure if you need that added durability so much since you'll probably get invisible or shrowded at least. Yes, t6 lord / sorc is good vs s10 and regular force weapons but you've got a character to die in challenges or 4++ anywayz.

Oh, btw, don't forget to buy gifts of mutation if you have the points. Occasionally you might end up with something useful like +1 wound or even shrowded! Not telling about eternal warrior or reroll failed saves for characters. You could end up with a tanking sarge! 2+ rerollable cover or 3+ rerollable save. Sweet. It's random, though, so half the time you'll get things like +1 bs or soulblaze. However, i recall a game where i once got a champ rolling +1 bs, than shooting his combi-melta (the only melta in the list) at a venerable landraider and hitting it on a 2(!) and proceeding to explode it! So, you never know.

Where to get cheap (in cash) spawns? Boxed, they cost a lot.

Bikes always underperform for me. I use them to screen Spawn mostly. I find having more wounds, even without saves is better than the bikes. Once you jink, you lost their special weapons effectiveness, and high strength weapons are usually low AP. With spawn, you've just negated AP values, so people will shoot the bikes before the spawn.

Let's just say in every game I field bikes, they are the first unit to go.


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Out of one box of spawn, I've converted 6 more with every last bit being used.

I second the opinion of bikes underperforming. With just one wound they tend to drop unnervingly fast to weight of fire. Ive tried several ways of running them, big squads, small squads, khorne slannesh nurgle, with and without characters. They always draw a tonne of fire (in my target saturated assault lists) and just dont have the durabilty to handle it and still be effective. In reality theyre only marginally more durable than stock marines.

Invisibility or shrowded will make them dead hard. I often run slaanesh marines with Cypher and can tell you that even t4 3+ 5++ with shrowded is very durable. While bikes with t5-6, 2+ cover or invisibility could handle the entire enemy army worth of shooting.

That's what I was thinking, with a2+ t6 chaos lord tanking, and shrouded/invis on paper they seem to be very hard to Crack.

Does anyone have experience using them this way?


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And as far as this unit goes, what do you think the best psychic discipline for the attached sorcerer would be? I was think either divination from the balestar, or going biomancy.

I like the prescience power, but endurance and enfeble also seem very useful.