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Under which codex would it best to run the Iron Warriors out of? Personally I'm not a huge fan of the actual deamon engines, like the two Fiends or Drake, so I'm thinking of running them out of the normal Space marine codex, with Iron Hands chapter tactics.
   
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Or invest in IA:13. From which you have access to vehicles such as the Sicaran, Relic Predators, Spartan Assault Tank, Rapier Weapons batteries and Fellblades, all of which suit Iron Warriors style. Best of all though you get access to the Typhon super heavy which was actually designed by Pertuarbo.

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Hm, true however you have to deal with the subpar rules of being a chaos space marine. Guess its something to consider, not like the models cannot be used for both.
   
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Orlando

30k. Actual legion rules and special units and fully usable with 40k. I have actually never played against a 30k army and have as many wins to losses with my IW vs 40k armies. You just have to get over that there is no one right way to run your army.

If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! 
   
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I run my iron warriors out of the marine codex.

I have converted centurions that are clockwork obliterators and a storm talon that is converted into a helicopter just to name a few units. Also Iron warriors thunderfire canons, need aI say much more?

   
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One question I do have is I know you can field the deimos version as different rules, however do people generally have a problem running them as the normal version?
   
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My Iron Warriors are generally whatever marine book (CSM, SM, BA, SW) I feel fits the army I want to run. A lot of SM usage due to centurions and thunderfires but also quite a few times with BA due to the extra drop pods (mine are mole drill machines). Honestly just figure out a style and run your marines using the book you want. If you do use two different marine books just make sure you can tell the difference between the two of the same type of unit (i.e. BA Tactical and SM Tactical)

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I have a buddy who uses csm + ia13 and the army is great. Very challenging and lots of diversity. He uses 4+ fnp zombie hordes bunkering kharn or typhus or abbadon as bubble wrap, a fell blade or other SH tank, renegade wyvern batteries and tons of otherartillery plus msu oblits and marines. He also take takes hellblades, a chaos fire raptor and more just depending on the day. Great army and what I would recommend.
   
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Orlando

But if you are using Kharne Typhus or Abbadon then it isn't IW. I cant see them using zombies. Massive horde of cultists and allied IG for sure though.

If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! 
   
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Hm, so what units/composition should I look at for Iron Warriors? Speficically for Chaos/Rebels and Space marines/IG What HQ to lead them, how should the troops be equipped, etc?
   
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Orlando

I still think you should pick up the 30k rules and just use chaos figures if that's the timeframe you are looking at.
In 40k the above mentioned artillery heavy IG as allies with perhaps a battery of artillery in elites, and wyverns or bassies in the heavy and a platoon of infantry. There's your human servants.

As for the marine side of thing, terminators feature heavily in IW armies. I would even say horde marines in this lone instance with a mark of Khorne(it is in the fluff). Those goofy dinobots and dreadnoughts would work well too. The chaos IA book has a lot of good stuff, you could even mount your 20 marines in a Spartan. Lots of big guns and tanks.

If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! 
   
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I would personally take a look at IA 13, it contains within it rules for a plethora of Chaos vehicles, including Titans, and also rules for Renegades and Heretics, which would fit very well with your Iron Warriors theme.

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I've got it and do like a lot of the tanks that are brought in. Am thinking something that brings in one or two of them, those without infernal relic, and maybe some raipers. One thing that has got me read storm of iron and their slaves are very well... terrible. Did the Iron Warriors typically use them like so are did they use guard like guard?

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Orlando

The Iron Warriors considered everyone expendable chaff, even other Iron Warriors. When Perturabo took charge he had one in ten legionaries killed as punishment because he thought they were weak. Slaves are more likely to be expended than another marine as a bullet sponge but they all serve a purpose. Even in Storm Of Iron this was shown when Honsu had two lascannon guys stand up and shoot a target knowing they would both die from return fire but would die accomplishing their mission.

If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! 
   
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So even the chaff are still trained, to a point, and not meek civilian-like? IE they can still have soldiers workign under them and it would make sense.
   
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 arinnoor wrote:
So even the chaff are still trained, to a point, and not meek civilian-like? IE they can still have soldiers workign under them and it would make sense.


tghey're trained as much as they need too. if on the other hand their only need is to run ahead of the actual warriors and act as a bullet soak well? why waste time training em>?

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
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Col. Dash wrote:
The Iron Warriors considered everyone expendable chaff, even other Iron Warriors. When Perturabo took charge he had one in ten legionaries killed as punishment because he thought they were weak. Slaves are more likely to be expended than another marine as a bullet sponge but they all serve a purpose. Even in Storm Of Iron this was shown when Honsu had two lascannon guys stand up and shoot a target knowing they would both die from return fire but would die accomplishing their mission.


i remember reading that book. it was great! That was when Chosen still had infiltrate.
   
 
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