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Hey guys, I'm just starting to actually get into playing the hobby with one of my good friends. In the last game we played, he had some space marines firing at my tactical squad, and at the front of my squad was my HQ. So with the space marines having a range of 24", he got 4 shots with a boltgun. my regular marines had a save of 3+ and my hq a save of 2+ (artificer armour). So, if ive got my hq at the front, lets say he makes all four hits, and of that three wounds go through. When going to save the wounds, I believe the rules says unit closest to the firing unit takes the damage, so that would be my HQ. So i roll 2+ saves, if one of those fails, can I then take my 5+ invulerable due to Iron Halo, and if that fails, am i then allowed to do a "look out sir".? Or am I allowed to allocate as i see fit, and my two marines behind my HQ can take the hit instead?

You make Look Out Sir! rolls at wound allocation before saves. Then you only get to make a single save on any wound.

No. You only get to take one save.

What's the point of an Invulnerable save if I have a 2+ armour save? Seems a little redundant

Vel'cona wrote:
What's the point of an Invulnerable save if I have a 2+ armour save? Seems a little redundant

It's for when you cannot take an armour save.

Ah okay, I haven't run into that instance yet, do you have an example scenario? It would be handy to know what do to in the situation

There's no options. You take the best save you have available for the situation. So if you get hit by an AP1 or AP2 shot, you take your invulnerable save because in that situation it is the best save you have available.

Or you get psychic screamed, which doesnt allow armour or cover saves. They roll four or more above your leadership, that many auto wounds will kill anything that doesnt have an invuln save

 inquisitormaus wrote:
Or you get psychic screamed, which doesnt allow armour or cover saves. They roll four or more above your leadership, that many auto wounds will kill anything that doesnt have an invuln save

That is incorrect, as an invulnerable save actually is an "Invulnerable Armour Save", psychic scream does not allow armour save, so no invul either imho.

Myliel wrote:

 inquisitormaus wrote:
Or you get psychic screamed, which doesnt allow armour or cover saves. They roll four or more above your leadership, that many auto wounds will kill anything that doesnt have an invuln save

That is incorrect, as an invulnerable save actually is an "Invulnerable Armour Save", psychic scream does not allow armour save, so no invul either imho.

Citation required. The actual rules disagree with you.

So your workflow would be:

4 wounds come in, they go on the closest target > the HQ. Do you want to Look Out Sir?
Yes, decide how many wounds to allocate to other models, roll, and distribute wounds/take saves according to the outcome of the roll.
Assuming that either you failed a couple of LOS rolls, or kept one or two wounds on the HQ, then decide which save to use (e.g., did you get hit by a Lascannon at AP2, then take your invul save!), and resolve.

As others have commented above, you only get ONE save, and you have to choose which to take, cover, armour or invunerable, and you choose which is best dependent on the situation.

The only thing which would allow you an additional opportunity to avoid a wound after a failed armour save is Feel No Pain, but that is NOT an armour save.

Myliel wrote:

 inquisitormaus wrote:
Or you get psychic screamed, which doesnt allow armour or cover saves. They roll four or more above your leadership, that many auto wounds will kill anything that doesnt have an invuln save

That is incorrect, as an invulnerable save actually is an "Invulnerable Armour Save", psychic scream does not allow armour save, so no invul either imho.

Psychic scream does not allow armour saves.

Inv saves are not armour savee.

Therefore, Inv saves can be taken.