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Hi guys.

I love the idea of having a table full of ork boys and sending in mob after mob, however, my wallet thinks otherwise. I was just wondering if there is anyway to get lots of boys on the table without having to pay 30 bucks for 10. AOBR is kinda out of the question since I can only find it for more money than I would spend buying the boxes.

ebay. You can sometimes get whole bunches of orks for about 2 bucks a model.

The real question is how much are you willing to pay?

The AOBR boys are kind of static IMO. They all have their arm extended out with a big choppa. This is a great angle for painting but annoying on the table top when you want to make a tightly clustered mob or even more so when transporting.

Ebay will be your friend, or other discount sites. You can usually find boxes of Ork Boyz for around 23-25 dollars which place them at 2.30 - 2.50 a model. If you're budget pressed you can a) find cheap bodies, torsos, heads, bases from bits vendors and use the arms you didnt use to make more boys or b) sell your spare arms or bits to fund additional boys.

This edition is not kind to melee and the new codex is DEFINITELY not kind to ork mobs. Perhaps in your quest to collect a green tide, the new codex will come out and we'll have mob rule and better assault rules....

Also, false mathematical upgrades.. Like dropping a 30 boyz squad for 10 nobz.

Also reinforcing your troop tax infantry with a painboy.

I did this for a while, both economic and better on a newbies back moving 1/3 the models.

While it is quicker and funner.. it's not statistically better than Moar boyz in any way.

Even our elites seem like hoards to marines

Create various saved searches on ebay, especially one that is sorted for brand new submissions, and check it often. Every once in a while someone will put up something less than half price, but it will be gone within an hour.

Unfortunately a lot of the stuff on ebay is a terrible deal, and there seems to be a lot of people bidding on auctioned items. You have to get lucky.

The other option is to get really crappily painted models and strip them, sometimes you can find these. Once I found 40 cheap boyz without arms...they were only online for 30 minutes or so before i snagged them. Surprised they lasted that long.

I've bougt like 70 boyz from other people for ~ 1-1.5$ per boy depending on gear, paintjob, spare parts, etc.

 koooaei wrote:
I've bougt like 70 boyz from other people for ~ 1-1.5$ per boy depending on gear, paintjob, spare parts, etc.

+1 I won't purchase regular Slugga & Choppa Boyz for more than about $1.25 each. I look for them assembled and primed if possible, saves a ton of time and money. The AOBR ones don't bother me at all, they look great in big mobs on the table. They do require more space for packing because they're holding their choppas over their heads, but other than that I think they look fine.

 Parity wrote:

This edition is not kind to melee and the new codex is DEFINITELY not kind to ork mobs. Perhaps in your quest to collect a green tide, the new codex will come out and we'll have mob rule and better assault rules....

The actual Greentide Formation from the Waaagh Ghazghkull Supplement (Warboss and 10 units of Boyz all combined into one huge unit, which at the minimum will be 101 models) is actually really effective. Run it alongside a Combined Arms Detachment from the normal Ork Codex for some Painboyz, Da Lucky Stikk and some shooting from Mek Guns/Tankbustas and you will have a top tier competitive army.

We are at 62 boyz and counting, using around three official boxes so far, plus some eBay AOBR and a bunch of others.

First tip: check out Assault on Bland Reach. A great way of livening up the static poses that doesn't take long.

Mix them in with the conventional boxes and they look great. We've added shootas to ours, using various methods.

On top of modifying the AOBR boyz as suggested above, you can simply saw off their arms and replace them with spare arms from the boxes. I did this to add shoots, but of course the separate arms, with sluggas or other weapons, also give more dynamic poses.

We bought 20 AOBR boyz for less than £10 (altho these days sadly 40k sellers all seem to rip you off for postage).

This is a couple converted up:



Second tip: use the boxes for around 2/3 or your boyz and you will end up with a bunch of extra torsos, arms and heads. All you need then is legs. Now, you can buy Kromlech legs, which cost about as much as a whole boy from GW. OR you can buy these legs from Curtis at Ramshackle. They're slightly bigger than normal Ork legs but will still look great.

I haven't actually bought these yet as I'm working thru a set of AOBR Spanna boyz, but Curtis told me he'd sell 10 pairs for £5. Bargain!

Ebay is definitly your friend. And then kitbashing some nobz or boyz boxs will help out.

I'm a firm believer in the following principles:

1) Patience: Ebay is full of over-priced models or people betting right up to the BNIB price for models that are clearly battered and used. People get very trigger happy bidding without setting a self-imposed limit as competition to win takes over.

I lurk on Ebay and 'watch' every item that takes my interest. I've got the Ebay applet on my phone to alert me to sales ending soon. Often you'll find items that slip through the majority of bidders (especially those ending at unsociable hours or during work time). Those are your targets as you can often buy real gems for a fraction of the price. Recently I bought the entire Ork half of Assault on Black Reach for £15 inc. P&P in near mint condition. I then bought a second one for £16 inc. P&P that was in worse condition but that leads me to...

2) Be prepared to buy listings that require work to salvage. People are inheritably lazy and when models look like they have broken bits they are turned off the idea of fixing them. The AoBR batch I bought for £16 has a couple of arms broken off which are easily repairable simply by snipping off the stump of the plastic peg and filing down the bit stuck in the arm - gluing it in place rather than pegging. That example is no different to gluing standard boyz together from the main box, but it's off-putting for many Ebays who see that as effort. Deffkopta roterblade attachment peg snapped off? Same method - magically looks like the normal ones.

Using this tactic, I built a 1500 point Deathguard army for £58 (ignoring paints)

3) Badly painted models? As long as it's not thick paint, just spray over, you don't lose much if any detail - you'll have to use your judgement on this one though as your mileage may vary as to results. If it's metal, strip it. If it's resin, watch in horror as it dissolves into sludge.

4) Visit independent stores that sell warhammer - sometimes you'll find cracking deals that aren't online. An example of this is I bought x5 boxes of the limited release combination boxes that had x10 tactical marines and a Drop Pod for £20 a box. That's £100 for the bulk of my 5K Deathwatch Sternguard army done right there.

5) Get to know people at your local gaming club (that is independent of GW). Join their Facebook groups or forums - quite often people are willing to sell you books and models at a very discounted price because you're friends with them - and you can do the same on models you want to shift and have no love for!


Those are my two teef, hope it helps and good luck!

In addition to the good advice preceding, use snipe software.

I use www.gixen.com

You can look at all the auctions for a given week and leave as many bids as you like; you can group bids so that if you win the first, it cancels the second. It's absolutely perfect for items that come up often; one one in six auctions, for random reasons, fewer people will be bidding, especially if it closes at a weird time. Because you leave a snipe bid days before you can take advantage.

This is how I got a Ghazghul, broken bosspole but that's it, for £3.50 and just sniped a metal meganob with one arm (of course I have surplus from the box) for £4.50 including postage. AOBR boys pop up all the time. Good luck.

Ayways, it's the painting I find challenging. 35 to go for our Green Tide....

Or you could find someone who's getting out of the hobby. Or at least unloading 90% of their modelling projects. Like myself. I have a little boy, and a house to fix up, so between them I don't have the time to finish up my ork army.

I still get to use my modelling and painting skills, only now it's a house. Plus side, power tools are fun. My wifes face when I mooted buying a nail gun. Anyway...

It's fairly large, I have probably a green tides worth of boys. I was planning big mobs of snakebites and grots using WHFB models on 40k bases, plus a ton more WHFB boys.

I've also got 40-50 partway built scratch built lootas. About a dozen dethkoptas cut down and mounted on bike bases. Plus a silly large pile of parts. All on proper GW bases.

The downside is I'm in the Netherlands, so postage is harsh. You're either shipping a 2kg or 5kg box (including packing). 5kg is like 35 euro, but maybe less. All insured and tracked and whatnot.

I've also got 4 GW cases, 2 old style, 2 new, various bits of foam missing.

Let me know if your keen, I can take some pictures or skype so you can get a good look at them.

I'm not going to finish painting the army ever really. I _might_ get all the projects I'm keeping completed. But I doubt it. A wall needs plastering, floor relaying, rooms tidied and cleaned. Newel posts needs drilling and installing. Springs here so I should top the trees before one borks a neighbors shed (Chainsaw! CHAINSAW! CHAINSAW!!!!11!!!). I also have a 4 month old to watch, feed, entertain etc for about 12-14 hours a day. But he sleeps, so I get stuff done then.

Maybe paint a squad, or model a BB team. Or mega up a Nob But I'll not be playing 40k for years, if not decades.

I can more for it piecemeal, but postage is a paaaaaaain in the butt these days, eBay often ends up costing me as much in fees as I make. So job lot works better for me, and you can get some army cases.

Please PM me with questions, and I can get you more details.

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Enough of me shilling in general response horde is a very fun army to play. Have to learn to play a bit faster, and er on giving your opponent the best of the odds to speed things along. You can lose an awful lot of models and still win, and the other player can roll a lot of wounds and feel awesome too.

Getting second hand models is indeed your best bet. Mostly you need an intact base, and a way of building the model from there. The further along this process the better. A couple of hours adding arms and heads, and a spot of filling can do wonders to someones bitzbox boys. I used to purchase boxes of GW bits that was usually a jumble of hobby interests. Clean up the valuable parts, flog them, you get your money back and models, plus bits. If you need more 25mm legit round bases then the LoTR game uses them, and they show up frequently in exit boxes. Plenty of others do this, and it's a gamble. Vague descriptions are good. Imagine piling your stuff in a box, and having your mum describe it.

You could sort of do this with AoBR when it was at it's launch price. Since someone would want an A5 copy of the rules, a termy squad and dread pretty much right away, that covered most of your cover price. You then had a tac squad, pair of characters, 25 orks and a trio of deathkoptas. Sad to say, I could sell flying bases far easier than koptas. But they make a nice basis for a dread/Meganob, or any childs toy you'd like to orkyfy

I *love* making my own minis. Orks are great for it. Why does it not look standard? Because it's not! Big gun on shoulder + supply pack = loota, ranged weapon = shoota, bow = . Grots with spears and shields, just pop a looted gun on a sling.

Anyway, thanks for reading the essay. Best of luck with the greenskins. Remember, quantity has a quality all of it's own. Bring more dice

When AoBR was still being sold, I could buy all of the Boyz from the box for $10 or less on eBay. I'm sure now that it's OOP, there will be more of a pricetag attached. Best thing you can do is try to snatch up AoBR Boyz, hack off their arms, and replace them with other things (like was previously mentioned). I have almost 200 Boyz, almost all of them are AoBR and I've personalized them enough to where you don't really notice much monotony with them. Swap heads with other Ork kits (you can buy them on eBay cheap) or from third party companies. Same with arms.