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Cadre Fireblade [60]

12 Fire Warriors [201]
+ Fire Warrior Shas'ui
• Devilfish
- decoy launchers

12 Fire Warriors [108]

12 Fire Warriors [108]

4 Stealth Team [130]
- target lock
- fusion blaster

7 Pathfinders [77]
7 Pathfinders [77]

Tau Empire Firebase Support Cadre
(Gives following units "Tank Hunter" special rule)

XV104 Riptide [225]
- early warning override
- Riptide stimulant injector
- ion accelerator
- twin-linked fusion blaster

3 XV88 Broadside Team [259]
+ Broadside Shas'vre
- velocity tracker
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- target lock
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- target lock
+ shield drone
+ shield drone

3 XV88 Broadside Team [259]
+ Broadside Shas'vre
- velocity tracker
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
- target lock
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
- target lock
+ shield drone
+ shield drone

I wouldn't really bother with the other three Broadsides, but rather have some tanks in there, for their durability and firepower or another Devilfish to protect some more of your Firewarriors or Pathfinders. I would also throw in a few more Shield Drones in there for extra protection and give some of the Firewarriors Pulse Carbines for the extra shot. The rest of the list is fine and I hope this helps

I understand where you are coming from however the firebase detachment requires that I take 1 Riptide and 2 squads of 3 Broadsides so I can't remove any and add in a hammerhead. I think it's worth it when I can reroll all my AP against all armour.

If I play a larger game than 1500 points I agree that more Devilfish are needed but I just couldn't fit them into 1500. It's also why I don't have any suits in here either. Besides if you would rather take shots at some Firewarriors instead of my Broadsides or Riptide I am more than happy with that. (which is why I gave my Broadsides shield drones as you suggested)

I don't ever suggest putting pathfinders in a Devilfish, you need these guys firing turn 1

FBSC is absolutely baller. I think if you are going with a Firewarrior gunline, you might be better with an Ethereal (I know - the victory point!) but you can buff multiple units of FW. And if your shooting comes from 56 infantry models, have you considered an Aegis Defence Line...?

You think FBSC is baller? Niiiiiice, I just got owned by a mostly vehicle Necron list and I needed something that can take out tanks better. I split my Broadsides up so one squad as the TL Heavy Rail Rifle for tougher vehicles and the other squad as the TL HYMP for lighter vehicles. Each squad also a squad member with Skyfire to target flyers...

Ugh I have been back and forth with the ethereal, think its better? My squad in the fish will be pushing forward so really he will only buff 2 units of FW's... Although, I could also cast "Sense of Stone" on a nearby BS squad until a unit is within half range of my FW's and then cast "Storm of Fire".

I also considered the defense line, maybe this list would benefit from a condensed set up behind a defense line with my fish on one side and my Riptide on the other to push forward and my Stealth team infiltrating into some cover somewhere...

 thefallenjackal wrote:
You think FBSC is baller? Niiiiiice, I just got owned by a mostly vehicle Necron list and I needed something that can take out tanks better. I split my Broadsides up so one squad as the TL Heavy Rail Rifle for tougher vehicles and the other squad as the TL HYMP for lighter vehicles. Each squad also a squad member with Skyfire to target flyers...

Ugh I have been back and forth with the ethereal, think its better? My squad in the fish will be pushing forward so really he will only buff 2 units of FW's... Although, I could also cast "Sense of Stone" on a nearby BS squad until a unit is within half range of my FW's and then cast "Storm of Fire".

I also considered the defense line, maybe this list would benefit from a condensed set up behind a defense line with my fish on one side and my Riptide on the other to push forward and my Stealth team infiltrating into some cover somewhere...

I do. but I dont like that broadside loadout. Missile suits much better. And why give one suit a velocity tracker? Everyone is going to have to shoot the fliew anyway, unless you are doling out the target locks.

I like missle suits better too but necrons have 13 armour on everything until you penetrate it once so I need some str8 weapons to take down that shield. Also, since suits can only take one system I gave one skyfire and the other two target locks so they all don't have to shoot at the flyer. (Personally All you really have to do is get flyers to jink instead of paying the 60 points to get them all to shoot at it when it might not even come in until turn 4)

I kinda dig the HRR. I mean sure, the maths don't support its inclusion but it's rule #1. And let's face it, now that GW knows absolutely everyone built their Broadsides with HYMP; we know the points incentives will be reversed when the next codex releases and since no one magnetized, they'll have to re-buy all their Broadsides!

Other than that, stealth suits? Again, rule #1 but in this case it's not like you're falling back on "they're still good, just not as good as HYMP..." The argument for stealth suits begins and ends with "Welp, they do look cool...."

yaaaaah I can agree with removing the stealth, they're really just there for the added fusion blaster and they do get a 2+ cover save in the right cover which is nice too... any other ideas on what to spend the points on? Maybe another 12 man FW squad or maybe a sniper drone squad?

The missile suits are actually better at cracking AV13 than the rail rifles are since they get tank hunters in the FBSC.

1x RR shot --> 0.75hits --> 0.26 Glace & 0.26Pen
Basically each Broadside has a 50/50 to at least glance.

with the missiles: 4x shots --> 3x hits --> 0.92 glances.

Each broadside does 0.4 more hits with the missiles than with the rifles. True, you can't pen but with a few drones or markerlights mixed in to skew the numbers in your favor you can just glance a Ghost Ark to death in one volley anyway.

Just my two cents.

What if I armed both 3 man Broadside squads with HYMP, took out the stealth team and added one more 2 man Broadside squad with HRR?

I would drop the first firewarrior squad and their devil fish and the stealth suits. Get some plasma gun crisis suits and some melta gun crisis suits.

blackarmchair wrote:
The missile suits are actually better at cracking AV13 than the rail rifles are since they get tank hunters in the FBSC.

1x RR shot --> 0.75hits --> 0.26 Glace & 0.26Pen
Basically each Broadside has a 50/50 to at least glance.

with the missiles: 4x shots --> 3x hits --> 0.92 glances.

Each broadside does 0.4 more hits with the missiles than with the rifles. True, you can't pen but with a few drones or markerlights mixed in to skew the numbers in your favor you can just glance a Ghost Ark to death in one volley anyway.

Just my two cents.

We all know the maths are better for the HYMP. But you gotta look cool maaaann.....

Ok so what about this:

Ethereal [50]

12 Fire Warriors [108]
12 Fire Warriors [108]

3 XV8 Crisis Team [166]
+ Crisis Shas'vre
- plasma rifle
- plasma rifle
+ Crisis Shas'ui
- plasma rifle
- plasma rifle
+ Crisis Shas'ui
- plasma rifle
- plasma rifle

3 XV8 Crisis Team [166]
+ Crisis Shas'vre
- plasma rifle
- plasma rifle
+ Crisis Shas'ui
- plasma rifle
- plasma rifle
+ Crisis Shas'ui
- plasma rifle
- plasma rifle

7 Pathfinders [77]
7 Pathfinders [77]

XV104 Riptide [225]
- early warning override
- Riptide stimulant injector
- ion accelerator
- twin-linked fusion blaster

3 XV88 Broadside Team [259]
+ Broadside Shas'vre
- velocity tracker
- shield drone
- shield drone
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- target lock
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- target lock
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod

3 XV88 Broadside Team [259]
+ Broadside Shas'vre
- velocity tracker
- shield drone
- shield drone
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- target lock
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod
+ Broadside Shas'ui
- target lock
- twin-linked high-yield missile pod


1,495 points