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Here's a thought for a potential 2500 tournament list and looking for thoughts.

Grey Seer [240]
+ Talisman of Preservation [45]
+ Power Scroll [35]
= 320
Warlord [90]
+ Warpforged Blade [50]
+ World's Edge Armour [25]
+ Enchanted Shield [5]
+ Opal Amulet [15]
+ Rat Ogre Bonebreaker [65]
= 250

Chieftain [45]
+ Sword of Might [20]
+ shield [2]
+ Battle Standard Bearer [25]
= 92
Warlock Engineer [15]
+ Doomrocket [30]
= 45
Plague Priest [100]
+ Dispel Scroll [25]
+ Level 2 Wizard [35]
= 160

51 Skavenslaves
= 102
52 Skavenslaves
= 104
50 Clanrats [200]
+ shields [25]
+ Clawleader [8]
+ musician [4]
+ standard bearer [8]
= 245
• Weapon Team
+ Poisoned Wind Mortar [65]
= 65
50 Clanrats [200]
+ shields [25]
+ Clawleader [8]
+ musician [4]
+ standard bearer [8]
= 245
39 Stormvermin [273]
+ shields [39]
+ Fangleader [10]
+ musician [5]
+ standard bearer [10]
+ Razor Standard [45]
= 382

Doomwheel
= 150
Warp Lightning Cannon
= 90
Hell Pit Abomination [235]
+ warpstone spikes [15]
= 250

2,500 points
   
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Albany, NY

How about a few specific things?
 numeon06 wrote:
Warlord [90]
+ Warpforged Blade [50]
+ World's Edge Armour [25]
+ Enchanted Shield [5]
+ Opal Amulet [15]
+ Rat Ogre Bonebreaker [65]
= 250
To start, he can't take both the World Edge armor and the e-shield, as they're both magical armor. Clearly e-shield is better for overall save ... however I would recommend the charmed shield anyway, to avoid that artillery snipe, and then use the opal amulet if that fails or for the second artillery snipe! Sure your list has two other prime cannon targets (DW & HPA) but it also doesn't have the dedicated artillery hunters that you usually see (5+ gutters w/ poisons + slings) to silence them. I also question how resilient T5 and 3+ armor is in combat, particularly with the way that bonebreakers work in corners to funnel attaks? Other option is to plonk a few more points to upgrade the opal amulet to Armor of Fortune or Destiny, then he can properly tank out enemy attaks while dishing out the pain.

Speaking of dishing out the pain, I don't think warpforged blade is the answer. He's only S4 in an army of S3-4, what you want is more strength - my most effective bonebreakers have gone ogre blade (because I didn't have the points for giant blade thanks to the AoD ). I'm guessing this guy is in the stormvermin? Meaning he's got AP on that S6, so neutering armor saves pretty effectively as is.

So the above changes leave us with this fairly simple beast: Warlord - ogre blade, armor of destiny, shield, bonebreaker = 248

Pity about no charmed shield - if we could downgrade your Grey Seer we could pop c-shield + preservation on this baddy, but otherwise we'd have to downgrade the warlord's ward, which is unfortunate given how much more pressure is going to be put on it. If you have 5 points spare (you should), I'd give this guy a dragonbane gem if able to, makes for some fun solo missions against flaming units.
Chieftain [45]
+ Sword of Might [20]
+ shield [2]
+ Battle Standard Bearer [25]
= 92
So one of the first rules a Skaven BSB learns is to avoid combat at just about all costs. Making this lad's sword of might double-bad: 1) Because he won't be swinging it if he's lucky; and 2) Because it might make him think he should be getting stuck in! My BSB often has a charmed shield and a fondness for bunkering next to the grey seer
51 Skavenslaves
= 102
52 Skavenslaves
= 104
Musicians please! Way way way more than a few random extra slaves.

- Salvage

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Oops my mistake. Does this look better?

Grey Seer
+ Talisman of Preservation
+ Power Scroll
Warlord
+ Ogre Blade
+ Armour of Destiny
+ shield
+ Rat Ogre Bonebreaker

Chieftain
+ shield
+ Battle Standard Bearer
Warlock Engineer
+ Doomrocket
Plague Priest
+ Dispel Scroll

46 Skavenslaves
+ musician
46 Skavenslaves
+ musician
50 Clanrats
+ shields
+ Clawleader
+ musician
+ standard bearer
• Weapon Team
+ Poisoned Wind Mortar
50 Clanrats
+ shields
+ Clawleader
+ musician
+ standard bearer
39 Stormvermin
+ shields
+ Fangleader
+ musician
+ standard bearer
+ Razor Standard

5 Gutter Runners
+ slings
+ Poisoned Attacks

Doomwheel
Warp Lightning Cannon
Hell Pit Abomination
   
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Albany, NY

Nice, gutters

Why are there 39 Stormies? Pretty easy to bump that to 41 and the bonebreaker evens them out. Actually, where does the plague priest go? And speaking of the priest, I'd totally drop 2 slaves (bringing both units to even 45's) and pick him up a flail.

- Salvage

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The priest is likely going with a slave unit, but the flail sounds like a good idea. The reason for 39 stormvermin is because that's all I have.
   
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I thought you could have two magic armor pieces, as long as you don't have them in the same spot. Like I can have the Armor of Destiny, Dragonhide helm, and a charm shield because they don't take the same place as each other.

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