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Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

Sup guys, just wondering which of my two lists I should play:

List one:

HQ:
• Kor’Sarro Khan- 150pt: Moondraken
Troops:
• Bike squad- 169pt: 4x bikers, veteran sergeant, 2x meltas, attack bike with multi-melta
• Bike squad- 135pt: 5x bikers, 2x plasmas
• Bike squad- 125: 5x bikers, 2x meltas
Elites:
• Vanguard Veteran squad- 115pt: 5x veterans, melta bombs
Fast Attack:
• Assault squad- 95pt: 5x assault marines, 2x flamer
• Land Speeder- 85pt: Multi-melta, typhoon missile launcher
• Stormtalon- 125pt: Skyhammer missile launcher


List 2:

HQ:
• Kor’Sarro Khan- 150pt: Moondraken
• Command squad- 250: 5x bikers, company champion, apothecary, 2x power fist, thunder hammer, melta bombs
• Librarian- 115pt: mastery level 2, bike
Troops:
• Bike squad- 169pt: 4x bikers, veteran sergeant, 2x meltas, attack bike with multi-melta
• Bike squad- 190: 5x bikers, 2x grav-guns, attack bike with multi-melta
Fast Attack:
• Stormtalon- 125pt: Skyhammer missile launcher


What do you guys think?
   
Made in cn
Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant




Generally say List 1 is better, as they have more guys and you may need number in low points game. However I think itbmay still need a few improvement.

It is better to take more grav guns in biker to make good use of their superior range and number of shots on relentless platform. And it is also better to consolidate Melta weapons (multi melta) on independent Attack Bike squad or Land Speeders as it has much better melta range than melta gun. So don't mix it into regular bike squad.

Don't use biker as assualt units and imho using veteran sarge with only melta bomb is not good idea. Your White Scars are surely not Ork Nob biker. You have better BS and way better range weapon choices. It is better use your mobility to keep distance from enemy fast assualt units. Only Jetbikes can be faster than you iirc. So you can avoid most combat and just shoot enemy to death, if you want.

If you wnat to use Vanguard Veteran as your answer to close combat, pack one or two storm shield and a few PF or TH. Without the storm shield, they are no more survivable than assualt marine but are way more expensive.

Imho, it is better to pack the Landspeeder with either two MM or just arm it with that missile launcher as backfield support unit.
   
Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

How about this one:

HQ:
• Kor’Sarro Khan- 150pt: Moondraken
Troops:
• Bike squad- 135pt: 5x bikers, 2x plasmas
• Bike squad- 169pt: 4x bikers, veteran sergeant, 2x meltas, attack bike with multi-melta
• Bike squad- 135: 5x bikers, 2x grav-guns
Elites:
• Vanguard Veteran squad- 190pt: 5x veterans, 3x storm shields, thunder hammer, 2x power axe
Fast Attack:
• Assault squad- 95pt: 5x assault marines, 2x flamer
• Stormtalon- 125pt: Skyhammer missile launcher



I dropped the land speeder
   
Made in cn
Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant




Yeah. Looks better. Maybe not bringing veteran sarge in the bike squad is a further improvement? Unless you are expecting fighting against "psychic shierk". Otherwise the benefit from Veteran Sarge is 1 more base attack. You can use that 10 points for a combi weapon of any kind to add a little more fire power.
   
Made in us
Secretive Dark Angels Veteran






You need combis on the Sgts. I would run a matching combi to your units load out.

I would drop the vanguard vets and get a pod for the assault squad and use those points to take a second stormtalon. 1 is not enough.

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