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Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

So far I have realy enjoyed playing against this army and i would now like to try it out. Just asking for any tips or comments on my list.

HQ:
• Daemon prince- 160pts: 1x daemon prince
Troops:
• Bezerkers- 230pts: 10x bezerkers, plasma pistols, 5x chainaxes
• Bezerkers- 230pts: 10x bezerkers, plasma pistol, 5x chainaxes
• Bloodletters- 85pts: 8x bloodletters, bloodreaper
Elites:
• Possessed- 150pts: 8x possessed
• Soul Grinder- 145pts: baleful torrent


What do you think?
   
Made in gb
Agile Revenant Titan






The points on your possessed are wrong, they're 150 points for 5, not 8. I don't understand the need to push the bezerkers to 10? I'd stick to 8,use the points saved for some upgrades for the DP. Personally I'd take the blood forged armour as it grants him eternal warrior and feel no pain, and in this list he's going to need it. With any luck you'll have enough points to give him an eye of Khorne or something. Or instead of that give the bezerkers champions a power weapon. I like lightening claws. They have to issue or accept a challenge, so it's at least worth giving them a chance of winning it. Especially as saying the enemy character in said challenge gives you a blood tithe point. Worth it I think.

I'm assuming you intend on deep striking the blood letters? Personally I think they're a point sink and you'd be better off with two rhinos. But I get why people like them.

Good luck dude. Have fun collecting skulls.

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Daemon princes need power armour and wings at the very least otherwise they just waddle around getting shot to bits.
   
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Agile Revenant Titan






I missed that. In which case I would most definitely drop the additional bezerkers. And I'd almost definitely drop the bloodletters too. Wings and some form of armour is a must. I'd go for wings and relic armour.

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Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

Ok, here is my revised lists:

HQ:
• Daemon prince- 220pts: warp forged armor, daemonic flight
Troops:
• Bezerkers- 230pts: 10x bezerkers, plasma pistols, 5x chainaxes
• Bloodletters- 85pts: 8x bloodletters, bloodreaper
• Chaos Space marines- 170pts: 8x chaos space marines, icon of wrath, flamer, power axe
Elites:
• Possessed- 150pts: 5x possessed
• Soul Grinder- 145pts: baleful torrent


I changed the second squad of bezerkers to chaos space marines to provide the force with some more firepower and upgraded the daemon prince.

What do you think?

   
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne





I would go:

HQ:
DP w/ warp forged armour, daemonic flight

Troops:
Bezerkers (8) - 4 w/ccw, 3w/chain axe, champ w/chain axe, Rhino
Bloodletters - 7 bloodletters, 1 bloodreaper
CSM (8) - 6 w/ccw, 1 flamer, champ w/power axe, Rhino

Elites:
Possessed (5)
Soul Grinder w/ baleful torrent

The Rhinos will allow your bezerkers and CSMs to get around the board nicely controlling objectives

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Made in au
Been Around the Block




Australia

IMHO I just don't really fancy rhinos. I think what I will do is give the prince better armour so he is more likely to live and give the bezerkers more chain axes in exchange for the loss of two members. Then the csm can act as the firing line in my squad for they have bolters and champ with power axe when they get into combat. Here is the new list:

HQ:
• Daemon prince- 250pts: blood forged armor, daemonic flight
Troops:
• Bezerkers- 200pts: 8x bezerkers, plasma pistol, 7x chainaxes
• Bloodletters- 85pts: 8x bloodletters, bloodreaper
• Chaos Space marines- 170pts: 8x chaos space marines, icon of wrath, flamer, power axe
Elites:
• Possessed- 150pts: 5x possessed
• Soul Grinder- 145pts: baleful torrent


Then the daemon prince can hapilly fly around and I could either deepstrike the soulgrinder or the boodletters. And dont forget I will gain bloodtithe points .

What do you guys think?
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





 Coyote828 wrote:
IMHO I just don't really fancy rhinos. I think what I will do is give the prince better armour so he is more likely to live and give the bezerkers more chain axes in exchange for the loss of two members. Then the csm can act as the firing line in my squad for they have bolters and champ with power axe when they get into combat. Here is the new list:

What do you guys think?


Chain axes are widely considered a waste of points. They do not help at all against Assault Marines, Terminators, Dreadnoughts or MC. Anything with a 4+ save is likely to have been overkilled by your berserkers anyway or be so reduced in kill capability that they cannot mount an effective counter attack anyway (Fire warriors, Necron Warriors, Veteran Guardsmen etc). It is almost always better to simply spend the points on more berserkers instead of axes that only help you against weak close combat enemies.

The ONLY model I can think of that chain axes are actually useful against is a large mob of 'eavy armoured orcs. In EVERY other engagement, more models is better than the equivalent number of chain axes.

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I agree with wtnind, chain axes are not great. with that in mind i would drop them out of my list and give the Bezerker Champ a power Axe. This would leave you a few points to play around with.

Rhino's would help you get across the board fast, foot-slogging it to objectives will leave your CSM and bezerkers vulnerable.

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For 250 points, instead of a daemon prince with those upgrades, why not go ahead and put in a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury? He is better (more attacks and better weapons, and can still fly), although he will likely have a big bullseye on him from the start. True, he can't take the special armor, but he may not need it as much as the DP does.
Just my 2 cents.

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 ZergSmasher wrote:
For 250 points, instead of a daemon prince with those upgrades, why not go ahead and put in a Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury? He is better (more attacks and better weapons, and can still fly), although he will likely have a big bullseye on him from the start. True, he can't take the special armor, but he may not need it as much as the DP does.
Just my 2 cents.


This is the dilemma I had. For the same points the bloodthirster is not only superior across the stat line, but he's harder to wound with his increased toughness, and has a shooting attack. One is better than none. I wouldn't worry about the bullseye. At this point level it doesn't matter if it's a bloodthirster or a daemon Prince. They will be target number one.

You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them  
   
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Been Around the Block




Australia

Thanks for all of the comments guys! I think I will include the Bloodthister because he is just so cool
   
 
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