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I haven't really played much with the notion of Slaaneshi Daemon Princes these days, but since the introduction of 7th Edition, Ive been wondering what everyone's notion on how to build a competitive list at around 1500 points would be.


My Current list is as follows


KOS - Exalted (Portaglyph) + Greater + ML3

Pink Horrors x 11 + Icon
Pink Horrors x 11

Daemon Prince of Slaanesh x 3 - ML3 + Flight + Power Armor + Greater Rewards x 2

My rolls for Psychic Disciplines would be on Telepathy for the notion of gaining Invisibility and automatically knowing Psychic Shriek after that. Str 6 is alright for a 2D6 AP-. That's my running belief ATM on Psychic Disciplines for them, I know a lot would suggest going for Iron Arm in Biomancy, but honestly, I'm just not sure on the math of being more durable and staying alive longer VS things like Massed Poison Shots or just Weight of Fire. My goals would always be board control with the DPs flying up and around causing havoc and general unrest, occasionally Psychich Shrieking things and Terrifying things, if any of them get Invisibility, bonus. They become harder to Knock Down. While also having a pretty decent Shooting Phase from the Lash of Despair. And they also know the Primaris Power from Slaanesh which we all probably forgot, Lash of Slaanesh which is that Str 6 Beam Weapon with Rending. Which can come in handy too with loose WCs.

What do you guys all suggest? Should I switch things around? Stick to Biomancy? Go Pyromancy because ?

If you are a Slaneeshi psyker, you won't get psychic shriek by default, because you have to roll at least once on the slaanesh table. So you'll need to swap a power for it. 1 roll on Slaanesh, 1 for psychic shriek, so you have 6+ with re-roll chance to get invisibility, twice. Not much.

Belakor get's it for granted.

Zsolt wrote:
If you are a Slaneeshi psyker, you won't get psychic shriek by default, because you have to roll at least once on the slaanesh table. So you'll need to swap a power for it. 1 roll on Slaanesh, 1 for psychic shriek, so you have 6+ with re-roll chance to get invisibility, twice. Not much.

Belakor get's it for granted.

That's only for CSM psykers

 CrownAxe wrote:

That's only for CSM psykers

Sort of. The daemon automatically gets 'Chaos Psychic Focus' as follows

“If a Psyker has a Mark of Chaos or is a Daemon of a particular Chaos God (see Codex: Chaos Space Marines or Codex: Chaos Daemons), that model automatically knows the primaris power of the discipline that corresponds to their patron deity, in addition to any other powers it knows.”

Excerpt From: Workshop, Games. “Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook - 7th Edition.” iBooks.

Which means that the daemon has always got one from Slaanesh, which makes him ineligible for regular psychic focus on his Telepathy powers.

 ArbitorIan wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

That's only for CSM psykers

Sort of. The daemon automatically gets 'Chaos Psychic Focus' as follows

“If a Psyker has a Mark of Chaos or is a Daemon of a particular Chaos God (see Codex: Chaos Space Marines or Codex: Chaos Daemons), that model automatically knows the primaris power of the discipline that corresponds to their patron deity, in addition to any other powers it knows.”

Excerpt From: Workshop, Games. “Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook - 7th Edition.” iBooks.

Which means that the daemon has always got one from Slaanesh, which makes him ineligible for regular psychic focus on his Telepathy powers.

so why does the demon psyker get Focus for a non-Chaos god power?

I think you're all agreeing
(but be warned there are some who don't)

You can always swap out for the primaris if you want it.

To the OP, It shoudl work. But I would be too nervous about running a daemon list without fateweaver.

The fateweaver/belakor/tzeentch combo just works for me. Cast shrouding, get a 2+ rerollable jink. Flickering fire is pretty decent.

This article was written during 6th, but i think a lot of it would still apply here.

http://daemons40k.blogspot.com/2014/04/how-to-play-flying-circus-part-first.html

i could see the slaanesh circus being quite effective, but haven't yet gotten to try it for myself, and i have only played one game of 7th with a proper circus list (though i went tzeentch with it… and i was itching to try malefic out, so i just rolled all of my monsters on that list. lol)
in some ways, the circus got much better, seeing as it is harder to get grounded now.

honest question though, why would you roll on telepathy?
shriek is good, but invisibility would only be helping you for the end game if you decide it's worth the risk to drop to the ground and assault. or it'd be nice for the keeper i guess.

 ArbitorIan wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

That's only for CSM psykers

Sort of. The daemon automatically gets 'Chaos Psychic Focus' as follows

“If a Psyker has a Mark of Chaos or is a Daemon of a particular Chaos God (see Codex: Chaos Space Marines or Codex: Chaos Daemons), that model automatically knows the primaris power of the discipline that corresponds to their patron deity, in addition to any other powers it knows.”

Excerpt From: Workshop, Games. “Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook - 7th Edition.” iBooks.

Which means that the daemon has always got one from Slaanesh, which makes him ineligible for regular psychic focus on his Telepathy powers.

Except that the reading for Psychic Focus specifically says:

If a Psyker generates all of his powers from the same psychic discipline (even if he can only generate one power), that Psyker is said to have Psychic Focus, and gains that discipline's primaris power in addition to his other power. If during the course of the game, that Psyker gains a psychic power from a different psychic discipline, he immediately loses the Psychic Focus (and the associated primaris power)

Emphasis mine. Chaos Psychic Focus isn't generated, it's just known. It's not gained during the course of the game, it happens at the same time as Psychic Power Generation. It is known (Khaleesi), not gained or generated, and therefore doesn't cancel out Psychic Focus.

Therefore, for example, a ML1 Herald of Slaanesh generating off of the Telepathy table knows: [Generated Power], Psychic Shriek, and Lash of Slaanesh.

Requizen wrote:

 ArbitorIan wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

That's only for CSM psykers

Sort of. The daemon automatically gets 'Chaos Psychic Focus' as follows

“If a Psyker has a Mark of Chaos or is a Daemon of a particular Chaos God (see Codex: Chaos Space Marines or Codex: Chaos Daemons), that model automatically knows the primaris power of the discipline that corresponds to their patron deity, in addition to any other powers it knows.”

Excerpt From: Workshop, Games. “Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook - 7th Edition.” iBooks.

Which means that the daemon has always got one from Slaanesh, which makes him ineligible for regular psychic focus on his Telepathy powers.

Except that the reading for Psychic Focus specifically says:

If a Psyker generates all of his powers from the same psychic discipline (even if he can only generate one power), that Psyker is said to have Psychic Focus, and gains that discipline's primaris power in addition to his other power. If during the course of the game, that Psyker gains a psychic power from a different psychic discipline, he immediately loses the Psychic Focus (and the associated primaris power)

Emphasis mine. Chaos Psychic Focus isn't generated, it's just known. It's not gained during the course of the game, it happens at the same time as Psychic Power Generation. It is known (Khaleesi), not gained or generated, and therefore doesn't cancel out Psychic Focus.

Therefore, for example, a ML1 Herald of Slaanesh generating off of the Telepathy table knows: [Generated Power], Psychic Shriek, and Lash of Slaanesh.

I think this is hardcore RAW bullshitting and word juggling. Isn't there a faq for this?

There's no FAQ for it and I've never seen it played any way other than that. For Daemons, who have no shooting and basically live or die by the Psychic Phase, I don't see it as that big of a deal.