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But generally, as long as there's cover to be had, my footsloggers haven't really had that big a problem. I'm not getting turn 2 charges, sure - but I can dart between cover to play a long game that works just fine. I mean, with a 4" table, you've only got 24" between your units....I cut down half that distance in one turn between moving and running (well, almost half, on average)...so I can reliably get into combat by turn 3, and once I"m there, I'm good. Admittedly, though, it helps that in my meta, my necron player never moves...

I agree against super cheese matches vs Tau or Eldar it can fall on its face a bit, and it can struggle against slightly weaker cheese but thats the same for the rest of our builds. I often play 3-4 squads of 25-30 all with painboyz. It takes up a little over or under half your points kitted correctly (BP+PK) and it gives the opponent a ticking time bomb to defuse. Anything super mobile I use deffkoptas to tie in CC until a trukk of boyz/meganobz/horde of boyz arrive.

Add in 5 lobbas with 3 ammo runts (99pts). They've made their points back every game so far, I don't leave home without them (buy the plastic empire mortars second hand, you often find them pretty cheap).

I've found footslogging with 120 FnP boyz functions pretty well in all lists up to and including mild cheddar levels of power.

Interesting, since I wasn't planning on shelling out $35 a pop for an 18-point unit. The one Lobba I have now is a converted Leman Russ part. I don't remember which variant uses the giant barrel, but it comes in the Punisher kit and rarely gets used... An IG player might have a couple lying around.

I've never had an opponent get weird about using slightly different models. Try out, 1 or a few. A was sold on them when I first fielded them and over the course of 3 turns killed 3 reapers (2 in one turn). Not bad for 18pts.

How about Grotsnik? Is he usable in place of a Painboy and a Nob?

I've not used him extensively but he performed ok when I did, not exceptionally. If you're rolling nob + painboy together into grotsnik then its an eggs into one basket case, something I avoid with orks. It does give fearless though which is nice but if I'm taking 4 painboyz and 4 mobs of boyz then I take 2 ork horde detachments giving me 6 of each slot to play with. That means I can easily add a warboss with eavy armour and PK or bigchoppa if you want to skimp on points. Gives the mob ld 9 and a bit more bite. I personally prefer this but I'm sure you will get some decent milage out of grotsnik.

I ask mainly because I have the model and can't seem to find too many different Painboy minis. I have the older resin one and I should probably shell out for the new plastic one, but aside from that are there any other poses? One of the cardinal sins of an Ork army, imo, would be to have 2 identical HQs.

I use the new plastic one, GW do 2 more models I think. I went with spellcrow and got their one and the painboy upgrade sprue converting a nob as another. For the fourth I use my brotehrs. He has converted 30 'nurgle orks' which look awesome. I use his nurgle PB with is a plaguebringer conversion but I'll probably grab one of the other GW models at some point.

I like to keep Manz missiles, trukk with ram and 3 barebones meganobz. For me they are a distraction, one that often actually does well though. If they can soak a turn of shooting and die, they've completed their purpose, never lost them all in one turn though (only played 5-6 games with them so far)

I've had a squad of 10 grots in an ork horde formation (one that gives HoW on rolled charge range over 10"). The grots killed 2 marines with the str 2 HoW hits, priceless...

I always take a couple of squads, be them bubble wrap, mobile cover saves or manipulating your opponents deepstrike, not to mention camping objective out of LoS