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I was just wondering how useful people thought this rule was. Now I don't want this thread to be about comparing it to the old mob rule, just analyzing the new one. I personally believe it is a good backup for Orks, considering their poor leadership. I just wish it wasn't so damaging to units.

Fairly useful, it gives small units a chance to actually handle pinning or morale tests and gives another reason to take a Nob besides his role as a PK-caddy. Also more often than not, you'll only lose 1-2 boyz when do you take losses via Mob Role since out of the 3-4 hits you take they only wound on 4's and you can take armour saves (and FNP) against them. For units like Mega-Nobz its a godsend.

It would be perfect if this also applied to Fear Tests, alas GW wants us to be the only CC oriented faction that is susceptible to Fear.

Depends. The way I run my orks, which is mechanized utilizing plenty of ard boy armor it isn't bad. Old mob rule never helped my boyz so I wasn't the one complaining when it got changed.

Unfortunately mechanized ork lists are not the norm, so people with green tides really hate it.

Not as bad as it seems. On average only one or two die, if that even. With 'Ard Boys, even less chance.

Not an ork player, but I am a bit "ork-curious." The new rule usually doesn't result in that many ork casualties most of the time, and it can be useful for keeping a unit locked in combat.

I liked facing the old rule better though. Those orks coming at me won't break from a handful of casualties? Oh no! Keep shooting, guys! Hey, we whittled them down. Now they're susceptible to all our leadership-based effects!"

I feel the old rule was more helpful in general, less punishing to unarmored smaller units, and more interesting to face off against. The current rule is one of the big reasons I didn't bite the bullet and start up a small ork force.

It's a life-saver.

It feels more useful for smaller squads and a push to reduce bigger ones. The thing is I feel like it is almost a direct result of other rule changes. They simplified (lameified) Ramshackled which I feel in some ways caused this rule to change. Think how much better it would be if they kept the old Ramshackled but changed to the new mob rule? now conversely think how good it would be if they kept the old mob rule with the new Ramshackled? The boys would also be ignoring any pinning tests as they would still be full strength (and fearless) after that penetrating hit just wrecks the Trukk. All ready to charge next turn with no negatives whatsoever. Because of a change in one they changed the other and the only options would have been to leave both or change both. As we know GW loves to change things that have no real problem so we got a trade of one mediocre combination to another. no real difference in the overall. The big change is that big ork squads eat crap with the new rule. The only way to circumvent this problem is with the Green Tide.