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Galanur wrote:
you play with those models cause you want to, no 1 force you to do it.

The rules cost you much cause well, go to a printer company and print a codex with exactly same number of pages, paper quality, hardcover, UV varnish and all that stuff and tell me how that ´s gonna cost you, I can guarantee its gonna cost you almost twice of what you payed for that book.



About all these eldar stuff around, read this post, it can be quite fun reading and the all out so much drama for nothing people do these days anyway...



http://www.spikeybitsblog.com/2015/04/40k-meta-how-to-beat-the-new-eldar.html

What that guide fails to take into account, is that unless you're playing someone who's running Iyanden (or whatever the wraith heavy list is) It's not just going to be D toting wraith units that you can overwhelm in numbers as it suggests, there's going to be scatbikes pumping out high strength; high volume attacks, Dark Reapers doing their thing, Dire Avengers or Guardians with their free heavy weapon platform or a number of other things that make blob units cry, which people have pointed out in the various Eldar threads, sure you can deal with Scatbike using av13+, sure you can deal with the D, but a reasonable Eldar list is going to be running both, for cheaper than you can run it's counters and with other shenanigans that Eldar enjoy.

And from what I've read that's what people have problems with, if you take a TAC list then you also factor in that you generally won't have enough of a specific fire power to deal with massed vehicles or blobs, but the Eldar codex is shaping up to give you the options to be able to deal with both at once which I personally find ludicrous. And again, this is only using the basic strategy of shoot the choppy and chop the shooty ( or in this case out shoot the shooty), without delving into any of the options within the codex that aren't going to negatively impact your list at all.

Which then leads into people saying they'd rather not play the codex,or asking the codex owner to severely gimp their army, etc etc. How does that seem fair for anyone?

Galanur wrote:


I just laughed so hard at this post topic, ban eldar from all competitive lol

Necrons came out and broken no 1 complained, D weapons like all sorts can be solved, Im amazed how people are making an all out war on this without actually testing their lists and playing against it.

Or simply they dont have nothing else in life to keep em busy enough and have to sign these pathetic topic subjects.

Let me just hand wave your argument away with something similar

"I laugh so hard at these people defending the new codex, Necrons came out and people complained about how wraiths got a buff and how the rest of the codex also got a majority buff, if it was just these one dimensional list ideas, they could be solved, I'm amazed that people aren't more affronted (especially after deamonkin and Skitarri both came out relatively fine) without being able to infer about a units abilities from what has been shown.

Or simply they don't have anything else to keep them busy, and have to dismiss any negative claims as whining"

This is fun can we go again?

Edit because spelling

 Chosen of Malal wrote:
I wish Warmachine players would just go play Warmachine and stop continually comparing it to 40k. If Warmachine is so much better, go play it and stop complaining about 40k.

So what do we get to compare 40k as a wargame to? Or do we not compare it to anything and stick our fingers in our ears while we happily throw our money at whatever GW drops on us?

dale_house wrote:
Are you really that butt hurt about some new rules for models yh they are powerful but its just a game your life doesn't depend on it have fun and stop whining you sound like a bunch of 5 year olds who don't get what they want it seriously mature the game is about adapting to what your fighting against you can just ban a race from tournaments, think about it all the eldar players who have spent thousands on getting there armies and then boom they can't use them if it were the other way round and your army got banned cause some butt hurt power gamers hated them you would be pretty pissed you had spent all that money and now its out the window. so stop being butt hurt go play the game have fun and enjoy your self its not all about winning so please grow a pair and stop acting like prepubescent 5 year olds....

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 Owain wrote:
Something tells me that most of the people whining about the new codex haven't played against it...

I don't understand this point of view, I don't understand how you can't see what a unit will be capable of before it hits the table. Or do some people just pick units out of a bag when list making and try and make their army work from there? Or not look at their rules until you get to having a game and end up saying "so that's how that works".

But maybe it's just me and a few others with this amazing prophetic ability to see how a unit will work on a table, what will be able to counter it, what it will counter/ruin and how it will work in conjunction with other units.

Also assuming Toofast is Brent, can we just call him Toofast using irl names kinda defeats the point of having a username on the forum.