Switch Theme:

The New Eldar Codex: An Eldar Player's Guide to Fair Play  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Agile Revenant Titan




Florida

Another option is to play like minded people. Against some folks, I will tone down nothing. With others, I will adjust accordingly.

There are so many tourneys these days, I will continue to attend the ones I like how they will run the event. I will not attend the ones where I like how it will be run.

At the end of the day it will be business as usual except I will be painting more to add to my 20,000 point Eldar collection.
Made in us
Agile Revenant Titan




Florida

 TheNewBlood wrote:
It is crazy. Wraithguard put out 5 D-templates for 210 points. Templates that can kill a Land Raider in one hit if they roll poorly, or an Imperial Knight if they roll well.

Balance, what's that?


Eldar players were doing this for years with cheaper Fire Dragons (in 5th, I'd pay 80 points for a basic 5 man squad, however, paying for 8 men was a sure Land Raider killer). What's the point other than identifying a more expensive way to do the same thing? And the new Fire Dragons appear to be able to do this even better (+1 on the damage chart and they are already AP1 = +3 to the damage chart). Land Raiders have been a 'meh' choice for several years now and still are. I'm sorry, but your statement stems from 'the sky is falling' syndrome with really no objectivity.

To be fair, not all play groups or players are at the same skill level. If folks need to tone things down for certain players/groups, by all means as it is up to you all to have an enjoyable experience. However, decrying the book is broken and unenjoyable is simply an opinion. This was the same cries we were hearing when the 6th edition Eldar Codex dropped. Some folks learned to play with/against Eldar, others did not. This is no different.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/04/19 04:39:11


 
Made in us
Agile Revenant Titan




Florida

 TheNewBlood wrote:
Goatboy over at Bell of Lost Souls has a decent article about the new Eldar: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/goatboy-hello-metagame-shift-eldar-edition.html

I think that it sums up the feelings of non-Eldar players in the current situation quite well. The final tagline is quite telling:

"Maybe I should have just stuck with Magic".

Hopefully, myself and others can show that there are more ways to play Eldar than simply monobuild and spam the most OP units in the game.


Goatboy also wrote how bad it would be for Wraithguard to come out of Falcons killing with impunity. Unless he knows something we don't (doubtful), Wraithguard are Bulky and you can't even put them in a Falcon. He's not an Eldar player and really posted a 'sky is falling' which has been no different from what is being posted all over the place right now.
Made in us
Agile Revenant Titan




Florida

The comment is there b/c it demonstrates a lack of knowledge and knee jerk reaction that folks are having, which COMPLETELY makes it less valid. He has no real basis to decry a book is broken when he doesn't even understand the basics of the army. If he claims folks appear unhappy with the codex based on observations on the internet, then sure, that would be a more fair and level headed statement. Having an opinion is fine- assuming your opinion is correct is an entirely different matter.

A buddy of mine played his UM/GK vs Eldar (Jetbike Warhost + 4 Wraithknights) and crushed the Eldar army. This was him running his ATC armylist to get further practice games in. Rather than decry the sky is falling, others figuring out how the army, you know, actually plays.

I've stated it previously, if folks want to adjust rules for their games, have at it. Anything that makes the game more enjoyable for both players is great. However, I think the approach is way off base. Folks are automatically trying to create feel bad scenarios based on knee jerk reactions and then degrade folks who have no problems playing against any list.

The title: The NEw Eldar Codex: An Eldar Player's Guide to Fair Play insults players. It creates an assumption that somehow Eldar players do not play fair somehow. For someone who has literally played Eldar since the Rogue Trader era and through every edition, threads like this do not foster a better gaming community, rather, it divides and creates further hostility for something that folks should be doing to have fun. So enjoy finding ways to tell folks how they should be having fun as they apparently don't know how to do it on their own accord.
 
Forum Index » 40K General Discussion
Go to: