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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/20 12:36:16
Subject: FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/04/20/400944245/fbi-arrests-6-people-in-2-states-in-terrorism-investigation
The FBI made a string of arrests Sunday, taking a total of six people into custody in Minneapolis and San Diego in a terrorism joint task force operation. The arrests follow an inquiry into young people from the Twin Cities area who have joined terrorist groups such as ISIS and al-Shabab.
Details about the case are still emerging. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Minnesota office has confirmed the arrests to several media outlets, saying that public safety was not under an immediate threat. So far, it seems that all of those arrested are young men whose families are originally from Somalia.
A news briefing about the arrests is scheduled for Monday morning; we'll update this post with news.
From Minnesota Public Radio:
"A Somali woman who said she was the mother of two men who were arrested told MPR News that the FBI arrived at her house around noon. One of her sons was arrested at her house; the other was arrested in San Diego.
"She said more than a dozen FBI and police officers searched her house and confiscated a tablet computer owned by the son arrested in San Diego."
That woman met with other parents whose sons were arrested Sunday; they're part of a large Somali community in Minneapolis.
"The community is in a state of confusion," Somali activist Omar Jamal tells the Minneapolis Star Tribune. "They don't know what is going on. ... This is a very serious issue. We as a community are concerned about losing our kids to [ISIS]."
According to MPR, "about 15 young people from the Twin Cities... allegedly traveled to Syria to support the terrorist group ISIS over the past year or so."
And the Star Tribune says, "At least 22 young Somali men have left Minnesota since 2007 to join Al-Shabab in Somalia."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/20 13:27:56
Subject: FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hopefully there will be charges and (assuming guilt) convictions as all too often 'terrorist arrests' stories end up going nowhere (released without charge and no reporting follow up)
I also hope this is all intelligence rather than sting driven as tempting people you suspect might become terrorist into actually doing so is not helpful
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/20 13:29:56
Subject: FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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This sounds intelligence driven.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/20 13:31:00
Subject: FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Hopefully there will be charges and (assuming guilt) convictions as all too often 'terrorist arrests' stories end up going nowhere (released without charge and no reporting follow up)
I also hope this is all intelligence rather than sting driven as tempting people you suspect might become terrorist into actually doing so is not helpful
Stings are actually driven by a bit of intelligence work. It's not like commonly portrayed by the media where you just throw things out and hope for the best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/20 19:24:34
Subject: Re:FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Douglas Bader
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I wonder if this will turn out to be a legitimate case of terrorism, or another example of the government holding the "terrorist's" hand and helping them through every step of the "terrorism" process so they can have a nice big publicity-generating arrest and justify their expanded police powers. It's already not very promising when it's talking about people going off to join ISIS outside of the US, something the US shouldn't have jurisdiction over.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/20 22:49:18
Subject: Re:FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Peregrine wrote:I wonder if this will turn out to be a legitimate case of terrorism, or another example of the government holding the "terrorist's" hand and helping them through every step of the "terrorism" process so they can have a nice big publicity-generating arrest and justify their expanded police powers. It's already not very promising when it's talking about people going off to join ISIS outside of the US, something the US shouldn't have jurisdiction over.
Colour me cynical but that was my first thought too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/21 00:14:26
Subject: FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Hellish Haemonculus
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Hopefully there will be charges and (assuming guilt) convictions as all too often 'terrorist arrests' stories end up going nowhere (released without charge and no reporting follow up)
I also hope this is all intelligence rather than sting driven as tempting people you suspect might become terrorist into actually doing so is not helpful
Keep in mind, since Obama signed the NDAA, the U.S. can abduct and detain anyone suspected of terrorism and hold them indefinitely without charge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/21 01:07:17
Subject: Re:FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Crazed Bloodkine
Baltimore, Maryland
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Dreadclaw69 wrote: Peregrine wrote:I wonder if this will turn out to be a legitimate case of terrorism, or another example of the government holding the "terrorist's" hand and helping them through every step of the "terrorism" process so they can have a nice big publicity-generating arrest and justify their expanded police powers. It's already not very promising when it's talking about people going off to join ISIS outside of the US, something the US shouldn't have jurisdiction over.
Colour me cynical but that was my first thought too
I feared the same, but it looks like good old fashioned police work. Informants, tracking movements, communication and financial records.
ST. PAUL, Minn. — When Guled Ali Omar made up his mind to join the Islamic State, he wasn't easily deterred.
The Minnesota man emptied his bank accounts last May and planned to fly to Syria via San Diego, but his family confronted him and he set his plans aside. In November, he tried to board a flight in Minneapolis, but was stopped by the FBI.
Even while under investigation, authorities say, Omar and five other men kept trying to make their way to Syria, coming up with a plot to secure false passports.
Omar is among six Minnesota men charged with terrorism-related offenses in a criminal complaint unsealed Monday. They are the latest Westerners accused of traveling or attempting to travel to Syria to join the Islamic State, which has carried out a host of attacks including beheading Americans.
Authorities described the men as friends in Minnesota's Somali community who recruited and inspired each other and met secretly to plan their travels. They are charged with conspiracy to provide material support and attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization.
"What is remarkable about this case is that nothing stopped these defendants from pursuing their goal," U.S. Attorney for Minnesota Andy Luger said Monday. "They never stopped plotting another way to get to Syria to join ISIL."
The Minneapolis area is home to the largest concentration of Somali immigrants in the U.S. Since 2007, more than 22 young Somali men have also traveled from Minnesota to Somalia to join the militant group al-Shabab, which is also listed by the U.S. State Department as fomenting terrorism. Authorities have said a handful of Minnesota residents have traveled to Syria to fight with militants in the past year, and at least one has died.
Al-Shabab gunmen carried out an attack on a university in Kenya on April 2 that left 148 people dead, most of them university students.
The Minnesota men charged on Monday were identified as Omar, 20; brothers Mohamed Abdihamid Farah, 21, and Adnan Abdihamid Farah, 19; Abdurahman Yasin Daud, 21; Zacharia Yusuf Abdurahman, 19; and Hanad Mustafe Musse, 19.
Luger said that in this case, there was no "master recruiter" in Minnesota's Somali community, but rather this group of family and friends engaged in "peer-to-peer" recruiting. They also helped each other with funding — taking money out of their own accounts or, in one case, trying to sell a car.
They had help from Abdi Nur, another friend who was successful in getting to Syria last May and had become a "de facto foreign fighter recruiter for those in Minnesota," Luger said.
"What this case shows is that the person radicalizing your son, your brother, your friend, may not be a stranger," Luger said. "It may be their best friend, right here in town."
He said Nur, who was charged late last year, had regular contact with the men in the group and served as a source of inspiration for those who wanted to follow his path.
All six were arrested Sunday. Adnan Farah, Abdurahman, Musse and Omar were arrested in Minneapolis. They entered no plea, as is standard, during an initial court appearance Monday and were ordered held pending detention hearings Thursday.
Mohamed Farah and Daud were arrested Sunday in San Diego and appeared in court there. They were also ordered held pending hearings Friday and are expected to be returned to Minnesota to face charges.
Minneapolis FBI Special Agent in Charge Richard Thornton said the pair had gone to San Diego to pick up fraudulent travel documents with the intent of going to Mexico, and then on to Syria.
An FBI affidavit says they traveled with another man who was cooperating with authorities. Luger said this man was once part of the conspiracy but then changed his mind and began cooperating with the FBI and recording conversations.
Luger said the informant gave authorities an inside view into what the men were thinking.
Longtime community activist Omar Jamal, who is working with families, said many Somali community members believe the young men were entrapped.
Abdihamid Farah Yusuf, the father of brothers Adnan Farah and Mohamed Farah, said he doesn't believe his sons did what authorities allege.
Guled Omar's older brother, Ahmed Ali Omar, was among those who joined al-Shabab, leaving Minnesota in December 2007, according to the FBI affidavit. Ahmed Omar remains a fugitive. The court documents also say when agents went to Omar's house in November, another brother, Mohamed Ali Omar, threatened them. Mohamed Omar was convicted.
An FBI affidavit says Guled Omar had also tried to go to Somalia in 2012 to join al-Shabab.
Three of these newest defendants — Mohamed Farah, Abdurahman and Musse — were stopped at a New York City airport in November along with 19-year-old Hamza Ahmed, but they were not charged until now.
Ahmed was indicted on charges of lying to the FBI during a terrorism investigation, conspiring to provide material support to IS, and attempting to provide material support. He has pleaded not guilty.
Mohamud Noor, executive director of the Confederation of Somali Community in Minnesota, said he is saddened by the arrests. He said one of the young men came to him and asked for help, and Noor didn't have the resources to intervene before it was too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/21 03:13:57
Subject: Re:FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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The Conquerer
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Yeah, I have the feeling this is genuine. Especially since there have been a bunch of similar busts related to ISIS all around the world and not just in the US.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/21 03:38:42
Subject: Re:FBI arrest six people in two states in antiterrorism raids
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There's going to be a more arrests of this type coming.
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