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Regular Dakkanaut




Hong Kong

If you have a sentry defence fortification (like a Vengeance battery): if you chose to use interception, I suppose it is commonly accepted that the battery will select its target only among those that came from reserve in that turn?
(ie shoot the closest in Los and range and coming from reserve)

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Screaming Shining Spear





Western Australia

The Automated fire rule says...

"If a building is claimed, each emplaced weapon that is not being fired manually (vengeance weapon battery cannot be manually fired BTW) automatically fires at the nearest enemy unit within range and LOS of the weapon. Shots from automated fire are resolved at the end of the shooting phase, just before any morale checks are taken, and as if being fired by a model with a BS of 2."

Interceptor says...

"At the end of the enemy movement phase, a weapon with the interceptor special rule can be fired at any one unit that arrived from reserve within its range and LOS. If this rule is used, the weapon cannot be fired in the next turn, but the firing model can shoot a different weapon if it has one."

The way I read these is that automated fire is only applied in your own shooting phase and thus it will play no part in the interceptor component.

You would still be bound to target only units which arrived by reserve though.

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Hong Kong

Thx.
And nice catch indeed
   
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 Massaen wrote:
The way I read these is that automated fire is only applied in your own shooting phase and thus it will play no part in the interceptor component.
[Quibble] There is a part of the Automated Fire rule that you'll be using - "Shots from automated fire are resolved [...] as if being fired by a model with a BS of 2". You can't ignore all of the Automated Fire rule without losing the ability to have ballistic skill. [/quibble]
   
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Western Australia

That's actually a very good point as the building itself has no BS...

Hmmm... Not sure now

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Regular Dakkanaut




Hmm.
Interceptor is a special rule in the BRB. Automated Fire is a more basic rule in the BRB. So, Interceptor takes precedence.

If a building is claimed, each emplaced weapon that is not being fired manually automatically fires at the nearest enemy unit within range and line of sight of the weapon. Shots from automated fire are resolved at the end of the shooting phase, just before any morale checks are taken, and as if being fired by a model with a BS of 2.


When does it fire?
Interceptor says at the end of the movement phase. Automated Fire says at the end of the shooting phase. There's a conflict. Interceptor takes precedence. We fire at the end of the movement phase.

What does it fire at?
Interceptor says that it fires at "any one unit that has arrived from Reserve within its range and line of sight". Automated Fire says that it fires at the closest enemy unit in range and in line of sight. There's a conflict. Interceptor takes precedence. We fire at "any one unit that has arrived from Reserve within its range and line of sight".

How does it fire?
Interceptor simply says that the weapon can be fired. It doesn't say how it's fired - there's nothing there saying "fired at the unit's normal ballistic skill" or anything like that. Just that it fires. We have to turn elsewhere to find out how the emplaced weapon fires. The only place that tells us how emplaced weapons fire is the Automated Fire rule.

So we're left with...
[...] automatically fires at the nearest enemy unit within range and line of sight of the weapon (Mallich - overruled by the Intereptor rules on targeting). Shots from automated fire are resolved at the end of the shooting phase, just before any morale checks are taken, and (Mallich - overruled by the Interceptor rules on timing) as if being fired by a model with a BS of 2

The core of this interpretation is the idea that the "fires at the closest enemy unit in range and in line of sight" (regular rules) bit and the "fired at any one unit that has arrived from Reserve within its range and line of sight" (special rules) bit are in conflict, and so we can dismiss the regular rules in favour of the special rules. The results are very different if you believe that the two bits are complementing, not contradicting each other - if both bits must be true, the building can only use the Interceptor rule if the unit that's entered from Reserves is also the closest enemy unit anyway.

RAI: No idea. Building rules are a mess.

HIWPI: Same as RAW.
   
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I agree with Mallich
   
 
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