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So, we had a game of Khorne Daemonkin vs Orks the other day, and had an odd situation crop up.

- My opponent (Orks) had charged his Dreadnought into my Chaos Lord on Juggernaut with Fleshhounds on his turn. The dread swung, killed some hounds, the Lord swung back with his Powerfist and reduced the Dreadnought to (1) hull point remaining.

- On my turn, the Chaos Lord obviously was still locked in assault with the Ork Dreadnought. On the other side of the table, my Soul Grinder fired his Phlegm Bombardment at a unit of Ork Boyz near the combat. The blast scattered a long way and landed on the Chaos Lord and Ork Dreadnought.

- We surmised that both the Lord and the Dread were hit, and after rolling for damage, the Phlegm caused a penetrating hit and removed the last hull point from the Dreadnought. At this point, we were at a loss for what to do.

Would the Chaos Lord and Fleshhounds be eligible to consolidate? Were they free to assault another target in the Assault Phase?

We rolled a D6 and the Lord stayed put, probably shaken from the Phlegm exploding in his face, but we were very curious if there was a correct way to play it, and a cursory rulebook search yielded little help. Any input Dakka?

I think nobody consolidates after combat with a walker because it's a vehicle. That's probably an oversight in the rules, walkers do consolidate themselves, but that's how it reads.

If it were not a walker, I think he still would not consolidate because that only happens at the end of the assault phase but I don't have the rules in front of me here.

You dont consolidate off vehicles including walkers or even chariots

ITs realllllly dumb.

You wouldn't consolidate here because it's not the end of the assault phase. However, you're not locked in combat, and you didn't shoot at anyone, so it would seem you are allowed to declare a charge!

Note that if the Dreadnought had been accidentally destroyed in the Ork shooting phase, then other Ork units would not have been able to shoot at the Lord & Hounds as Locked in Combat lasts until the end of the phase (top right, page 47).

Yarium wrote:You wouldn't consolidate here because it's not the end of the assault phase. However, you're not locked in combat, and you didn't shoot at anyone, so it would seem you are allowed to declare a charge!

Quanar wrote:Note that if the Dreadnought had been accidentally destroyed in the Ork shooting phase, then other Ork units would not have been able to shoot at the Lord & Hounds as Locked in Combat lasts until the end of the phase (top right, page 47).

Thanks guys, it does indeed seem that I should have been able to launch an assault, but on the other hand, I'm sure that situation doesn't come up very often.

had a similar situation arise where my Boyz got into a bit of a pickle against a very angry space marine player. During my shooting phase my KMK's scattered and destroyed his termies assaulting my boyz...rather comical and i wont lie...I was kinda hoping that would happen. Worst case scenario? i lose the 5 boyz left, best case scenario he loses 5 termies ;-).

I think that for the most part you are right, except they don't get to consolidate, because they are vehicles, and because thats at the end of the assault phase.