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Got a 1000pt tournament tomorrow night. This is this list I am pretty much set on. What are our thoughts?

White Scars
HQ
Librarian, bike 90
Command Squad, bikes, apothecary, 4 SS, 4 Grav 250

Troops
4 bikes, 2 Melta, Attack Bike w/ Multi-melta 159
4 bikes, 2 Melta, Attack Bike w/ Multi-melta 159
5 bikes, 2Grav, Combi-grav 145

Blood Angels
HQ
Librarian, lvl 2, bike 110

Troops
5 Marines, Plasma cannon 85

Blood Angels librarian takes powers from divination and joins the command squad. Prescience and another power to buff shooting which makes the squad a strong deathstar unit.
Other librarian takes powers from biomancy.

I think the list will do pretty well. I am not sure about the 5-man squad on foot with a plasma cannon though. Just doesnt seem to fit the list. You might actually be better off with some scouts.

5 scouts w/ camo cloak w/ missile launcher is 80 points. Maybe you could add an auspex somewhere to make up for the extra 5 points.

Thanks for the quick reply.

The 5 man squad are just in there to get the divination librarian. They will prob sit on a home objective and try to got a few lucky shots off with the Plasma cannon.

I agree with what you are saying. They are very static compared to the rest of the army but unfortunately I don't have scouts.

I feel like a Thunderfire cannon would add a lot more than the DA allies.

It really fills a lot of gaps for Bike armies and stops the enemy from getting comfortable behind cover.

Well it looks like he is planning on having 2 psykers in the army.

Although really, do you think two psykers at 1000 points is worth it? It is a very small point limit to bring two HQs.

Or even if you did bring in the two psykers, you just bring two from the vanilla codex and like the above said toss in a TFC.
or if you dont have a TFC do you have a stormtalon?

The TFC sounds like a very good choice I don't have one nor do I have a stormtalon but they are units I'm considering getting.

I have two psykers because I want to use the grav bike command squad and have the squad prescienced by a librarian.

It does take up quite a lot of points but should make for a very powerful unit. Especially at 1000pts. If I was fortunate enough to get relentless on the White Scars psyker it would make the unit very durable.

From what i can tell you have no troops in your white scar detachment. The biker squads only become troops when a CAPTAIN is mounted on a bike, the librarian doesnt cut it.

Thanks for pointing that out Melcavuk. Don't know how I missed that.

Needs some re-jigging.

Yeah, sad reason my Imperial Fist biker force doesnt include two biker librarians, the captain tax for bikers

After a quick change, I think I will take Kosorro Khan as he is only 15 point more expensive than a similarly armed captain.

Khan, Moondraken
Command Sqd, 4 ss, 4 grav 250
4 bikes, 2MG, Attack bike w/ MM
5 bikes, 2 MG, CM
5 bikes, 2 grav, CG

Blood angels
Librarian, bike
5 Marines

Should be able to proxy Khan

What are your thoughts on that?
I so see that it is a large investments in points on two HQ especially when you count the token 5 marines. But i really want the cmd sqd to be prescienced.

Here's a question, does Khan unlock the command squad or does he unlock an honor guard?

Command squad- just checked.




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If i got myself a scout squad tomorrow, i could run

Khan, moondraken
Cmd sqd, 4ss, 4 grav, apothecary

4 Bikes, 2mg, 2 attack bike w/MM
4 Bikes, 2mg, 2 attack bike w/MM
5 Bikes, 2 grav

Blodd Angels
Librarian, bike
5 scouts, bolters, ccw or shotguns?

I'd think snipers would be ideal, but perhaps bolters or shotguns would be better. definitely get them the camo cloaks though.

Don't mean to poop on your party, but don't you have to have minimum 5 bikes for Khan to make bike squads to count as troops?

But he has them: 4 bikes +1 Attack bike

 Icculus wrote:
I'd think snipers would be ideal, but perhaps bolters or shotguns would be better. definitely get them the camo cloaks though.

I am a fan of Bolter Scouts, but I guess it depends on the layout. You want the most range out of them. Snipers have never paid off for me. And camo cloaks are great if sitting on an objective. The list looks good, especially you mini deathstar unit.

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I second maverick. Bolter scouts aren't too shabby.

Compared to the shotgun they lose the ability to Assault (not that with shotguns Assault is recommended, you'd have only 2 attacks on the charge) but you gain 12" of shooting.

Compared to the sniper rifle you lose 12" and the ability to hurt kinda reliably high toughness targets, but you gain weight of fire and the ability to move and shoot.
I ran Camo snipers and they didn't do a single wound the entire game, then got blasted in one go by the tyranid ignoring-cover formation. Not that other kind of scouts wouldn't have been blasted too, but maybe they would've been able to give some supporting fire to other parts of the battlefield.
Came Cloaks (especially if you play a TFC) is a very good investment.

Let us know how the tournament went.