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Do formations ignore the one lord of war limit? Looking at the new elder codex and seem like you can. Just wondering thanks

No. If there is no Lord of War slot in the chosen Detachment, then you can't take a Lord of War.

But the opposite is true too, if something like the Warhost allows you to take 12 Aux Formations, that could include the Wraithknight LoW; then you should be able to take 12 Wraithknight LoWs.

As for the eldar specific 'decurion style detatchment" the wriathhost formation does seem to allow more than 1 low as opposed to a CAD

There is no hard "1 LoW limit" in the game. LoW is just another force org chart slot like an elite or a troop. If you have a detachment that lets you take more of them then you can take more LoWs.

What CrownAxe said. If a detachment has more then 1 LoW slot then you can have more then 1 LoW. If you run 2 detachments and each detachment has a single LoW slot then your army may have 2 LoW units. If you have a formation that includes a LoW taking it will not prevent you from fielding a LoW in a different detachment. You could run an army of 6 formations and have 6 LoW units if each formation included a LoW and since you can take the same formation over and over again you really are only up against a points limit.

The only time your army might limited to 1 LoW max, no matter what detachments/factions you take or if your army is unbound, is when you are playing with house rules imposed by you and your opponent a tournament.

Thanks, So far I can't find an Allied Detachment that does allow for a LoW slot. I'm sure there are a few floating around. So, with maybe few exceptions in a CAD/Ally/Ally restricted game you can only have one LoW. phew... I wonder who will be the first TFG who plays in a 1850 with 5 Wraithknight list. I think it can be defeated but not very easily.

You're thinking about it wrong. It's not CAD/Ally/Ally, its Primary Detachment/Formation + more Detachments/Formations. Most codexes have their own unique detachment(s) or formation(s) in addition the the CAD and Allied detachments in the BRB.

SJ

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:
Thanks, So far I can't find an Allied Detachment that does allow for a LoW slot. I'm sure there are a few floating around.

There is only one 'Allied Detachment' in the game and that is the one presented in the main rulebook which does not have a Lord of War slot. There are other detachments which you can take as allies but they are not an 'Allied Detachment (proper name)'.

Hmm? Sorry for the confusion, I pretty much ignored formations untill now. I realize some formations have flow charts or matrix like the new eldar


Primary detach can be either CAD or Formation/Formation matrix.

Ally detach can be either CAD detach or formation/formation matrix or fortification and all are interchangeable right?

so if I wanted to, I can go (assuming 3 detachment limit):

CAD/formation/CAD ally

or

Formation/ CAD ally/ formation

or

Formation/cad ally/fortification

etc.

Instead of separating Allies from everything else, just think of it in detachments. Everything is a detachment. Formations are detachments. A CAD is a specific type of detachment, and an "Allied Detachment" is a specific type of detachment. Every formation and detachment in the various army codices are also detachments.


In general, your army can consist of any number of any types of detachments, regardless of Faction.

Some detachments have restrictions on them. For instance the "Allied detachment" (1 HQ, 1 Troop minimum) found in the rulebook has a restriction that says it must be of a different faction than the detachment which contains your warlord.

So in your examples, you're separating "CAD" and "CAD ally", when they are simply just two CADs. Perfectly Legal.

The term "Primary Detachment" is just the name for whichever one of your detachments contains your warlord.

Additionally, a fortification is not a detachment. It is a FOC slot available in some types of detachments (like the CAD)