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Hey guys i finally get to play my 1st real game of warhammer tomorrow and i wanna throw this list up here and let me know what you guys think. Also if you would change anything.

HQ
Ahriman (Warlord)
Kharne the Betrayer (i could get rid of Kharne and put the Bezerkers in there instead let me know what you think)

Elites
2 Terminators with 1 Terminator Champion With Combi bolters and power swords

Troops
9 Chaos space marines with 9 boltguns and a champion with a bolt pistol, bolt gun and a chain axe (should i change this to something else or keep an upgraded close combat weapon?) in a rhino

Fast Attack
Heldrake with Baleflamer
4 Raptors with bolt pistols and cc weapons
Raptor Champion with a chainaxe and a plasma pistol

i also have a land raider that i was gonna put Kharne and the Terminators in to get them across the field. im either playing space marines or Eldar, since im new winning is not everything (dont get me wrong i wanna crush him) but since im new and still learning i just wanna make sure i can field a army thats at leas competitive. thank you guys for helping me out

What other models do you own?

Dont run units without special or heavy weapons...in 40k thats like giving them no weapons at all

give the chaos space marines 2 meltaguns they can fire out of the 2 firepoints on the rhino, that is the best way to run them

give meltabombs to your champions

give flamers or meltaguns to your raptors

give combi meltas or combi flamers to your terminators, heavy flamer isnt bad for them either

consider dropping the terminators, raptors and arhiman to put kharn and bezerkers in the landraider, that would be a solid hitting unit

This list is not competitive. Just going to pop that bubble right away. Absolutely zero anti tank, somewhere near a third of your points in TWO models, Ahriman and Kharn. Grand total of 20 models and none of them are 'elite army' material. And I also want to point out that the list is Unbound, just to bring that to attention. Competitively, I'd keep the Heldrake and throw out every single other thing here.

Now, in terms of 'this is my first game', neither of your special characters have a place. You have one Rhino and its full. What are you going to do with Kharn and Ahriman? They are stuck in the open with no support, no help, no squad.

The Terminators NEED weapons. Give them something. Termicide is your best bet with combimeltas for all three.

The Raptors need an Icon to be worth a damn, with one exception. If you give them two Meltaguns and do a high risk Deep Strike to kill a tank, they can deal with not having an Icon or Mark. They land, kill something and then die. If you want them to land, do something and not die, they need something to make them better than their target. Mark of Slannesh, Icon of Excess, Icon of Vengeance, even a Mark of Khorne and throw them at T3 models. Something is required or you may as well not even bring them.

There is absolutely zero reason ever to take two expensive named characters in 1200pt games. That's just plain silly to dump so many points in 'dude 1 and dude 2'. Pick a model that helps your list, helps how you play or you just really like. ONE named character until you get to 1850 and higher. You need models on the field, not some ridiculously expensive psyker and a 'hits on 2+' axe. With the models you mentioned, Kharn is more important than Ahriman. Like it says above, use him and Berserkers in a Raider. That is the only 'real' unit it looks like you are able to field right now.

I would advise against that.

Look into IA13 and Khorne Daemon Kin.

The most competitive lists minimize HQ and Troops to be 160pts and then spam an effective unit.

IA13 has RH and they can get Spawns for cheap 30ppm instead of 60ppm

They also get rapier batteries for anti tank which are cheap.

Seeing as you only have marine bodies. I say good luck and have fun.

with Daemon kin you can support your kb much better.

All good advice, but you gotta remember the guy is playing his first game tomorrow, hes not going to buy and paint up a new 1000 dollar army in a day.

That said, good advice to go with the new khorne daemonkin codex looks like it might fit your playstyle.

You can use your kharn model as a khorne lord, and you'll probobly have to pickup some bloodletter models and other demons for summoning.